[Plainville MA] 40k 1850 Swedish Komp Event - 3/22

[MM3791]

Is there a leaked pic that says they're super heavies? I haven't seen one..

They are, says it right in the original leaked picture here

http://www.battlegroundgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=7548.0

Are you referring to the same leaked pic with the models from the 1980s?  That's doesn't look like a leak, it looks like abstract words on a website. In fact, those "rules" were "rumors" posted before ANY Knight pics were available at all.

[PhoenixFire]

Is there a leaked pic that says they're super heavies? I haven't seen one..

They are, says it right in the original leaked picture here

http://www.battlegroundgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=7548.0

Are you referring to the same leaked pic with the models from the 1980s?  That's doesn't look like a leak, it looks like abstract words on a website. In fact, those "rules" were "rumors" posted before ANY Knight pics were available at all.

Look buddy it's clearly a picture from a white dwarf magazine, it clearly says under unit type "super heavy walker"

I don't know why you're saying the sky isn't blue because it's pretty clear cut and frankly I don't care to waste any more time discussing the obvious.

Don't be "that guy" who argues just to argue

[Tharcil]

Is there a leaked pic that says they're super heavies? I haven't seen one..

They are, says it right in the original leaked picture here

http://www.battlegroundgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=7548.0

Are you referring to the same leaked pic with the models from the 1980s?  That's doesn't look like a leak, it looks like abstract words on a website. In fact, those "rules" were "rumors" posted before ANY Knight pics were available at all.

I think the misunderstanding is that MM did not read the whole thread you linked, just clicked on the first link on the first post, rather than scrolling down to the picture being referred to in the BG forum.

[Benjamin]

This post. Super Heavy Walker.
http://www.battlegroundgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=7548.msg61018#msg61018

[MM3791]

This post. Super Heavy Walker.
http://www.battlegroundgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=7548.msg61018#msg61018

Ah thank you

I think the misunderstanding is that MM did not read the whole thread you linked, just clicked on the first link on the first post, rather than scrolling down to the picture being referred to in the BG forum.

Correct.. I wasn't arguing just to argue, I was legitimately asking for the leaked pic.. this is obviously a lot clearer. Thanks

WS4 with A3 is pretty crappy, no wonder why he has a D sword. He'll be hitting Bloodthirsters on 5's, and that's AFTER the BloodThrister strikers first. Same deal for Keeper of Secrets

With Smash, both the Bloodthirster and Keeper will be hitting on 3's and glancing on 3's.. as well as striking before the knight. Those are pretty good odds.

[andalucien]

WS4 with A3 is pretty crappy, no wonder why he has a D sword. He'll be hitting Bloodthirsters on 5's, and that's AFTER the BloodThrister strikers first. Same deal for Keeper of Secrets

With Smash, both the Bloodthirster and Keeper will be hitting on 3's and glancing on 3's.. as well as striking before the knight. Those are pretty good odds.

Well... assuming that he doesn't have to go through terrain, the bloodthirster will strike first and on average do 3 hull points to the Knight.  Then the knight strikes and has about a 60% chance of removing the bloodthirster from play (just needs to roll 1 5 in 4 dice and then not roll a 2 to wound).

[Sir_Prometheus]

Yes, the 3 attacks looks bad until you consider Str D.  Also, don't forget stomp.  No, no MC can actually fight it reasonably.

[andalucien]

Oh yeah, forgot the stomp, that also has around a 40% chance or so of removing the MC from play.

[robpro]

Oh yeah, forgot the stomp, that also has around a 40% chance or so of removing the MC from play.

You mean 1/6 chance with stomp?

[Sir_Prometheus]

No, he means 40%.  Which I'm not sure why that matters as the Str D will probably kill whatever it is anyway.  Stomp is just to make sure you don't get bogged down in hordes of Orks, cuz it would be awful if theres things had a counter. 

[Goblin]

as i mentioned in the other thread, a brood of carnifexes, will likely kill a knight on the charge.

a D hit only does a d3+1 on average (factoring the d6+6 on a 6 to wound and no effect on a 1) so any mc with 4+ wounds (all the tyranid mcs) will take two D hits on average to kill. it's still not good odds, but with high i and smash, it isn't unreasonable to bring down knights i cc with mcs (though typically not on equal points).

[MM3791]

You can get two Riptides for the cost of one Knight.

[Dalymiddleboro]

Is this going to be the standard for BG tourneys? Because this makes my daemon army nerfed to the ground, and I play that army specifically as my tourney army. Dark Eldar, is my casual army... This just has me concerned...

[Dalymiddleboro]

Sorry for the double post, How will this work in a DE list with 12 vehicles? As everything in my army pretty much needs a transport, I take 12. It says 1 komp for having a 9th vehicle, 2 for having a 13th. I play 12, so will 12 still just cost me one komp?

[Bill]

To your first post; I don't think this will be standard at all; and to your second you got it right. For the record; I think vehicle heavy DE are one of the better lists at 3 limp points.