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Swedish Komp System
« on: January 28, 2014, 10:37:51 AM »
I actually really like this system so far..  Discuss....

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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 10:48:43 AM »
I like the idea of it.  If there were a good process in place to keep it updated, react to new dominating thing quickly, etc, it could help to keep things fresh and at least make it so the same things wouldn't stay on top for long.  And theoretically could boost "Sad armies" like orks, nids, sisters.
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 10:54:50 AM »
They've been talking about this a lot on the 11th company.  I like the idea of it, but of course feel the urge to quibble with details?

Why are stormraven's penalized so much?  My tau list gets 5 points, but 3 of those are just from taking markerlights.  Centurion's aren't penalized, at all.  Etc, just things like that. 

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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 11:03:31 AM »
So far I think the points are good my Eldar would score a 6 and my SW a 3 so both I think are represented well.

Overall I like it and think its a good way to move forward.
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2014, 11:09:39 AM »
Actually, I was thinking about your list (because seriously, no offense, but it's nasty as hell) and I what satisfied me, to an extent, is that I think you'd score way higher than 3.


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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2014, 11:12:53 AM »
I like the idea of playing a 3 or 5 point tournament, I just don't think the points are all that balanced. I think my necron list I'm taking to templecon is a 12 and it's by no means the nastiest thing you'll see in the GT.

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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 11:18:17 AM »
LOL my list overall doesn't have allot of the power units.  I make use of non common models to give me the punch that is dirty.

Also with keeping the WG in only 2 squads I limit the bang and don't spread the love.  My list is nasty in the first 2 rounds after that it dwindles hard.  If I cant win the game in that short time it is a very uphill battle.

Now 1 caveat to that according to the comp system I field 11 pods if they keep the scoring for pods going then 11 would see me at 4 points instead of 3 which makes a bit more sense.

So for SW thats one change I would make keep the points going up for every 2 pods
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2014, 11:31:30 AM »
I like the idea of it.  If there were a good process in place to keep it updated, react to new dominating thing quickly, etc, it could help to keep things fresh and at least make it so the same things wouldn't stay on top for long.  And theoretically could boost "Sad armies" like orks, nids, sisters.

Looks like they are updating this regularly it has been out for a bit and is up to date.
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 01:03:18 PM »
I'm at a 10 and my list is no where near the standard meta-spam.
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 01:09:21 PM »
I don't like it, mainly because it has traditional written all over it and traditional doesn't work (which is why there have been pissing matches about Comp for the entire several years I've been playing this game).

I would rather see players judge how good their opponents' lists were, and that information used to give a bonus or negative.
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 01:10:32 PM »
Right so lets say you do that.  Person gets beat and it butt sore.  He dogs you, now you have tpo deal with an average or lose out because you pissed off a child.
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 01:12:19 PM »
So, Troy, how many drop pods do you have?  Like, 9 right?

I guess you get off cheap, cuz you have 2 wolfguard squads, which are in drop pods, plus the JOTWW counts as two drop pods, so that puts you up to like 12 drop pods, but the system caps out at 9 drop pods.

Bleh, so you kinda slip under the radar.


BTW, judging comp by simple opinion can be alright (it's not great), but scoring it prior to actually playing the game is absolutely critical.

I prefer an independant panel of jusdges scoring comp, honestly.

I even OK with some simple like -3 BP for playing Tau, etc.

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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2014, 01:23:15 PM »
I have 7 but yes there should be a incremental that doesn't cap.  So by the comp system I have 11 pods but in reality only 7
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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2014, 01:41:54 PM »
It's interesting and certainly infinitely better than the daboyz"comp". My list clocked in at a 5

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Re: Swedish Komp System
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2014, 01:43:30 PM »
It seems bad that a particularly strong army might score a 3 and a not particularly strong army might score a 12.

Hearing that makes it VERY difficult to take seriously.
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