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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #105 on: December 05, 2013, 12:05:59 PM »
To have Inquistion forces scoring they have to be your allies not supplemets :)
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #106 on: December 05, 2013, 12:07:08 PM »
To have Inquistion forces scoring they have to be your allies not supplemets :)

Not if you have Coteaz :)  He makes them scoring no matter what.
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #107 on: December 05, 2013, 12:11:32 PM »
Ahh NM then
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #108 on: December 05, 2013, 03:59:09 PM »
How bout this list:

2 Rune priests with Jaws
2 or 3 Squads grey hunters in pods

Coteaz
Divination Inquisitor /w/ server skulls, psycannon
3 scoring acolyte units,  maybe give 2 some servitors for the inquisitors to sit in?

2 units of 3 tank hunting / PE broadsides
1 tank hunting / PE Riptide

2 stormtalons
1 BS5 stormraven


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I haven't used my allied detachment yet... can someone think of a useful way to have an allied detachment, inquisition, broadsides and flyer detachments?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think that's kind of awesome.  If it was painted up really well I'm sure it would look pretty damn cool on the table.
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #109 on: December 05, 2013, 04:18:49 PM »

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think that's kind of awesome.  If it was painted up really well I'm sure it would look pretty damn cool on the table.

:(  I think people walking by would think there was a 4x4 team game going on.   I dig the "unifying aesthetic" aspect of a well-presented army.  It would be hard to have a unifying aesthetic for all that, without just doing a bunch of counts-as models.  (And if you're using a counts-as army, it's irrelelevant which codexes the models are supposed to represent, it will LOOK just as cool or stupid regardless).

And, if this type of thing becomes popular, what will REALLY happen is that people will just buy 6 broadsides, 12 drones, and a riptide, and put those SAME models into all the different armies where they want to use them.  So that's throwing "unifying aesthetic" right out the window.
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #110 on: December 05, 2013, 04:35:22 PM »
I would even go so far as to say that this type of supplement actively penalizes beautiful armies, since by taking your own army's version of long range power instead of the freely available Tau broadsides (Tau specialize in this), you are consciously sacrificing effectiveness because you don't want to figure out how to make Broadsides somehow look like they fit into your army.
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #111 on: December 05, 2013, 06:49:22 PM »
Look, the Inquisition codex actually has a lot of fluff justification.  You should be able to have basically any imperial army run by some inquisitors. 

There's cool guy, Andre, he has an army that is basically only Inquisition and stromtroopers.  That's what he thinks his cool.  Didn't like Coteaz, which was basically the only way to play that army, so he was pretty ticked when the GK codex came out.  Inquisition codex let's him play that.

I have both Coteaz and Karazamov.  I also have a lot of marines, converted to look like GK, cuz guess what, I really do just like knights.  I'm pretty sure I can make a fairly fluffy, cool looking list with a combination of GK, "Grey Knight" marine bikers, and Karazmov dropping orbital bombardments on the Chpater master with the shield that just don't care. 

That's all good stuff.  But the codex is still a copy& paste hack job, and letting everyone take COteaz just because they felt like it isn't a great idea. 

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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #112 on: December 06, 2013, 10:28:19 AM »
So it seems they're about to update the digital version of the StormWing dataslate.   Someone asked, "Hmm, isn't it weird that I can buy a stormraven but that I can't put any marines inside it"?   Which prompted an update to cover that totally edge-case scenario.   

Maybe soon they'll do another update that covers what happens when you ally in multiple detachments that aren't all battle brothers with each other (another total edge case I guess).

Over-under on testing games anyone at GW played with any of these supplements before shipping: zero.  These questions simply would have come up with any testing at all.
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #113 on: December 06, 2013, 03:52:18 PM »
So todays release is fluff for Trigrus? Or did I miss something

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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2013, 11:05:38 PM »
OK... lolololol.

The new 11th company podcast came out and it's pretty classic.

We were missing something.  There is no restriction that you can only take one copy of each of these dataslates.

So this 1850 list is legal:

Inquisitor
3 scoring acotyte units
18 tank hunting, PE broadsides
3 tank hunting, PE riptides
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #115 on: December 11, 2013, 11:16:29 AM »
Today's datasheet is a Centurion formation. However its the assault variant and only for Apocalypse so sorry Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves players no grav weapons for you.
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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #116 on: December 11, 2013, 11:22:18 AM »
Oh, this, THIS is for apocalypse only? 

Wtf. 

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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #117 on: December 11, 2013, 12:08:53 PM »
Oh, this, THIS is for apocalypse only? 

Wtf.

What? Just use Apocalypse if you want Grey Centurions.

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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #118 on: December 11, 2013, 01:16:42 PM »
Specifically, I can't see why this is apoc only but the Tua firebase was fine for everybody.  It's not like I expected it to make sense, but I still get shocked sometimes by the anti-sense. 

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Re: Another digital supplement was just launched - Be'lakor
« Reply #119 on: December 11, 2013, 01:17:49 PM »
Yeah... lower your expectations my friend.  They don't test the stuff, don't proofread the stuff, don't think much about the stuff.
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