[Abington MA] 2500pt 40k Tournament - Double FoC - Double Fun - 11/16

[Sir_Prometheus]

hey, I am somewhat new to the store and this would be my first tournament evar.
I have played chaos space marines since 5th ed and just started playing with some demon allies.

I have a couple noob questions:

I didn't see allies mentioned, are they allowed?

WYSIWYG: if i bring terminators with power mauls, but the model has a tentacle arm instead of a power maul, will i be d/q'd and or relentlessly ridiculed? Likewise, do all power weapons have to be accurate.. powerfist models have to be powerfists, and can't be chainfists, etc.

Thanks! If nothing else I will show up to watch and learn!

So, not an official answer, but they're following the book: Double FOC means not only allies, but that you can have two different allies.  (requirements apply, you must have two primary attachments first)

Generally speaking, I think most people are willing to count a tentacle as whatever as long as you're very clear about it before hand.  People also tend to fudge about chain fists a lot, so as long as the chaing fist is the only fist, you're probably ok.  A lot of people get bothered by counting fists as swords or axes or whatever else, though....you generally shouldn't do that. 

[Chase]

Matt's answer (the one above this) is exactly correct.

Edit:  Except for maybe the allies having to be the same?

[Loranus]

Nope chase your wrong he's wrong. The allies have to be the same I will reference the rule later when I get my hands on my Brb .

[andalucien]

It seems a little counterintuitive, but it's probably OK (though not ideal) to have a tentacle that counts as a Power Maul, but it's NOT OK to have a sword that counts as a power maul.   The tentacle is an unusual item that needs explanation anyway, whereas a sword would just be straight up misleading.

If it looks like the guy would be clubbing people over the head with the tentacle, that does make it kind of better that it counts as a power maul.  Just think about ways you can make that kind of thing more obvious on your models.

[Chase]

It seems a little counterintuitive, but it's probably OK (though not ideal) to have a tentacle that counts as a Power Maul, but it's NOT OK to have a sword that counts as a power maul.   The tentacle is an unusual item that needs explanation anyway, whereas a sword would just be straight up misleading.

If it looks like the guy would be clubbing people over the head with the tentacle, that does make it kind of better that it counts as a power maul.  Just think about ways you can make that kind of thing more obvious on your models.

This.

[andalucien]

Yeah, in double force org, if you use 2 allied detachments, they both need to be from the same codex...

here's the quote from BRB page 110:

"As stated earlier, taking an extra primary detachment allows you to take an additional allied detachment (which must be from the same codex as your other allied detachment)."

[Sir_Prometheus]

Poop.  I hadn't really thought about it too hard yet, but in the back of my mind I was planning some Reg-tau/farisght/GK cavalcade of doom. 

[carcass]

cool. thanks guys. that makes sense about the power weapons. guess im bringing power fists and power tentacles as that's all i have on my models

2 daemon HQ allies will be cool if i can get the second one built in time.

one last question... are there any fluffinators that will be offended by my Tzeench heralds casting blessings on my Nurgle oblits? 

[andalucien]

Nahh, nobody cares about stuff like that.  If it's legal in the rules, go nuts.  The power weapon type limitation isn't a fluff issue, it's a rules communications issue - your opponent should be able to look at the table and think about what to do without having to constantly ask you questions like, "OK what was this guy's weapon again"?   Taking it a step further, yes, if you have multiple models with the same sort of tentacles, those tentacles all need to count as the same thing.

[Chris]

It seems a little counterintuitive, but it's probably OK (though not ideal) to have a tentacle that counts as a Power Maul.

Also just make sure all your tentacle are power mauls.

[Thomas callahan]

well, this is really a let down. Very good chance i would be able to go for this event. Unless my work hires 1-2 people in the next week or two, i will be working.


soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............who wants to come work in the stop and shop deli with me so i can play?

[Sir_Prometheus]

Hrm.   Starting to feel like 2500 is not enough for me to bring ALL the toys.  Any chance we can do 3000?   

In any case, my list is done, and turned in.  For all you double FOC doubters....I didn't use double FOC at ALL.  If I had, it would have only been so I could get more than two troops from the allied contingent. 

[Chase]

Any chance we can do 3000?   

Unless this 2500 point event is a total failure in that it ends up taking forever, I have every intention in the world of doing a 3000 point Apocalypse tournament in the not-so-distant future.

I'll wait on talking about that until this one is over.

[Chase]

This is going down this weekend.  Please email me if you're planning to play and haven't yet.

[The_Chef]

well, this is really a let down. Very good chance i would be able to go for this event. Unless my work hires 1-2 people in the next week or two, i will be working.


soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............who wants to come work in the stop and shop deli with me so i can play?

+1 to the Callahan boat. Work demands my presence. *grumble*