Author Topic: GW's July Releases (in my inbox as of 60 secs ago) - Apocalypse + some SM stuff  (Read 2943 times)

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i love the wall of Martyrs the most oddly enough

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So, is apocalypse going to have the additional fortification walls we've been hoping for?  And why are their no xenos fortifications?

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White dwarf leaks from Faeit

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Someone now has their July White Dwarf, and is letting us all in on exactly what he is seeing in it. So if you are interested in what the latest White Dwarf is revealing to us about the Apoclypse release, this is for you.


Please remember that this is one person very quickly going through the White Dwarf that just arrived for him today.

via Darkest Sin  on Warseer
For some odd reason the White Dwarf mags turned up today, the first time we have had White Dwarf before its release date in months. However it would seem to indicate there will be a lot of 'one-click' deals based on the formations appearing online this friday. Of course going on previous one click deals I assume that will mean at zero discount. Tbh its what I expected and it will certainly save me some money, in the sense I won't be buying any of them.

They have a page advertising a few which match the old book... Dread Mob, Leman Russ Tank Company, Carnifex brood, Phoeniix Court of Khaine, Lord of the Black Crusade, plus one I don't recognise as the army is newer than the last Apocalypse update.. Carnival of Pain. (Dark Eldar, Urien Rakarth, Haemonculus, 3x Grotesques, wracks and 3x Talos.)

On a side note the Bombardment dice thingy, is 125 Dice in a clear cube, like their £4 ones. The dice are cool mind, black with red pips, and the one replaced by an Ad-mech symbol. The gamers case is nice mind, half tempted to get one.

They have a few pages show from the book, but the Necron craft isn't one of them. The Khorne Lord of Battles has tzeentch prefered number of Hull Points, as do Baneblade class tanks by the looks of it (both the Stormlord and Stormsword pages are shown.) Also the Khorne Lord of Battles is triple blessed by Khorne, as if you put three of his unholy number alongside one another, that would be his starting points.

like a normal 40K release, the bit on it at the start hints at what it can do fluff wise, they use two in the battle report, so there might be hint of what it can do there, but no defined rules. I could only reference the Lord of Battles stuff, because it is one of nine double page spreads they show when talking about the Apocalypse rulebook near the start. Each pic is two inches by three inches but you can just about make out the text, even at that size.

Skimming the battle report the Vault's main attack is called 'Sky of falling stars' and seems to hint at meteors pounding the battlefield. One of the new templates is five large sized looking blast markers attached to one another so you can string them out, curl them around to represent a line of explosions. I'm guessing it uses that one. (edit - it does)

Also the Aquila fortification gun is noted as a Macro cannon.

one of the double page spreads is about Superheavy walkers, there is also a Heldrake squadron that can do a 60" move at the end of the deployment phase, which seems pretty brutal.

Collectors Edition
Oh and for the first time (well in my mind at least) the Collectors edition is actually worth considering. Not only does it come in a very nice box, with the strategic cards, and a couple extra bits and pieces. It also has every formation in the book printed on card stock, looks like A4 ish size. So you don't need to flick all over the book for Baneblade rules etc and comes with a three panel quick rules screen.

Gamer's Edition
The gamer edition case is lovely by the way, huge double headed eagle on the side and bits of text/warning signs as if its a Vortex Grenade case. Big enough for four Baneblades as well. Although at the moment I am getting really tempted by the collectors, going to have to be quick If I go for one as they are going to fly. Having all the formations as individual card sheets is so blinkin useful, as is the quick reference rules screen with art on the back (like a DM screen) as well as a warzone book that is noted as not being out for several months as an extra, oh and a excellent looking travelling case.


it's interesting they are talking about hull points and not structure points for the super heavies, the double talk about the number of said points eludes me as i'm not intelligent about daemons.

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In 4th ed the greater daemons had point costs in like with whatever their god's number is.

666 = one of them
777 = another
888 and 999 for the other two.

I forget which is which, but it was pretty neat.
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In 4th ed the greater daemons had point costs in like with whatever their god's number is.

666 = one of them
777 = another
888 and 999 for the other two.

I forget which is which, but it was pretty neat.

ah gotcha Chase, looks like...

khorne 888
slanesh 666
nurgle 777
tzeench 999

so using that logic they would have 9 hull points which is currently the same thing as 3 structure points

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wow, looks like the new fortifications are going to be usable in apoc AND regular games.. and the rules come in the box!

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-new-fortifications-rules-for-apoc.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Faeit212+%28Faeit+212%29

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Vengeance Weapons Battery $50
-The box comes with two Vengeance Weapons Batteries. Each can be armed with either a Punisher Gatling Cannon or a Battle Cannon
-The rules for both Apocalypse and Warhammer 40k are included in the box

Firestorm Redoubt $65
-Large fortification that has a pair of Quad-Linked Icarus Lascanons
-The rules for both Apocalypse and Warhammer 40k are included in the box

Aquila Strongpoint $115
-Has two options: Macro-Cannon or Vortex Missile
-Macro Cannon fire at a long range with an enormous blast radius. Can even target flyers.
-Vortex Missile comes with 7 Vortex Missles, which are bigger versions of a Vortex Grenade, but with infinite range
-The rules for both Apocalypse and Warhammer 40k are included in the box


i assume the non apoc rules are going to be nerfed but i guess we will see in 2 weeks, i might need to go fortification shopping if the rules are decent

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I heard rumors of Tau Farsight Supplement.  I would be excited by that.

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I heard rumors of Tau Farsight Supplement.  I would be excited by that.

I can confirm for you that it's in the July white dwarf (saw a pic) but can't confirm if it's coming out with the apoc stuff
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Does anyone know if the Bombardment Dice are just regular d6 (albeit fancier) or are they something else like a scatter die?
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Does anyone know if the Bombardment Dice are just regular d6 (albeit fancier) or are they something else like a scatter die?

regular dice, the 1 has a symbol on it

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The 4 people that asked for CE's WILL get their books.  I confirmed with GW today.

Whew!
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am I to understand that all the Wall of Martyrs stuff is useable in normal games of 40k, that Firestorm Redoubt with eight 96" las cannons looks like it could come in very handy.

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Especially with hell drakes and deamon princes darkening the skies

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am I to understand that all the Wall of Martyrs stuff is useable in normal games of 40k, that Firestorm Redoubt with eight 96" las cannons looks like it could come in very handy.

it's said the boxes are going to have rules for apoc and non-apoc, i'm GUESSING the weapons and such will be nerfed for regular games. ( i cant see the use of vortex missiles in regular 40k)

I also think these new fortifications require the wall of martyrs so this could be a very expensive fortification to take point wise

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Some details:

Two of the new Wall of Martyrs pieces are compatible with regular 40k.  One of them seems awesome and has two of the twin linked "I kill your flyer" guns.  I forget what the other one has.  Apparently a rules insert comes in the box of each piece.  The other one is the size of the Fortress of Redemption and is Apoc only.  It can be built as one of two things... Either some giant thing that resembles the Ion Cannon from Star Wars or a giant missile silo / launcher thing.
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