Bad news for Tau and Battlegrounds - UPDATED

[Chase]

Talked to my reps boss.  He had essentially nothing to say despite a 25 minute call.  Certainly nothing new.

I was told Abington had their entire order filled.  Here's hoping Cale grossly over-ordered.


I got a call almost immediately afterwards from "The Boss" in TN.  I forget his name.  He was a pretty nice guy and actually had some answers / ideas.  Long story short, nothing can be done about what's happening.  GW admits to this colossal fuck up.  It is very strange that Plainville (a 3 day ship, normally) did not get our product. (As it turns out, 4 day ships get favored over 3 day ships, which get favored over 2 and 1 day ships and all air shipments).

We're looking at 2 weeks MINIMUM before the stuff will be on the shelves in Plainville.

I will be contacting the people that have preordered new models with me later tonight.


The only upside of this convo is that "The Boss" dude was able to confirm that Battleground is one of the top GW accounts in the country, which is pretty cool.  Counts for nothing, clearly, but it's cool.

[Grand Master Steve]

that actualy is pretty cool

[the_trooper]

Steve, it's salesmen's BS for "It's not you baby, it's me."

[Grand Master Steve]

oh ok

[King of the Elves]

So, I'll be running demo games of Warmachine in Abington on Thursday night! 

Cool! I had a phone call from a new player who said he was coming by on Thursday to learn how to play.

 Tell em I have Khador for Sale

[King of the Elves]

I was told Abington had their entire order filled.  Here's hoping Cale grossly over-ordered.

 Talked to him today, he ordered 2 extra riptides (for the shelf)

[Chase]

I was told Abington had their entire order filled.  Here's hoping Cale grossly over-ordered.

 Talked to him today, he ordered 2 extra riptides (for the shelf)

Too bad he didn't order 10-12 extras.

[MM3791]

I just read that Tau marker lights will also now add +1 BS to snap shots and over watch. Can effect other units with supporting fire special rule. That means BS 5 sky fire shots with pulse rifles and rail guns. This drastically effects the meta game I would think..

[Grimwulfe]

Except for that USR that says overwatch BS can not be adjusted by any means.

[MM3791]

Codex rule over rides USR, but I guess we will have to wait to see the exact wording.

[PhoenixFire]

Codex rule over rides USR, but I guess we will have to wait to see the exact wording.

Wording is going to be key because...

all overwatch is snapfire

but not all snapfire is overwatch

[Sir_Prometheus]

I've seen the wording, it says makerlights can be used to increase the BS while doing snapshots and overwatch, it's very specific.  Keep in mind markerlight hits evaporate at the end of the phase, so for overwatch the markerlights would have to be overwatching, too.  (which works with their shared overwatch rules).

Also, drones fire at the BS of the highest BS in the unit, so some maker drones with SHas'O got some BS 5 naturally, baby.

Oh, and there's nothing preventing markerlights from using other marker hits to increase their BS.  SO you could use the skyray, which has skyfire and two markerlights, to light up a Flyer.  Then you could hit it with a unit of pathfinders hitting it with BS3, to give 4 or 5 marker hits.  Then you could shoot a Railgun at it at BS 5, or 5 seekers (which always hit at BS5, defacto skyfire).

I'd have to do some math to figure if that's actually a good use of resources, but yeah, you can totally do that now. 

[MM3791]

Cool thanks for the input, yea you'd think if anyone could shoot down fliers easily it would be Tau.

[Sir_Prometheus]

It's looking to me that Tau will be able to shoot down Flyers so easily, that I'm thinking I won't actually go out of my way to put Skyfire on very much. 

The Hammerhead character gives skyfire, I think.  That and on skyray or another hammerhead is probably more than enough. 

[MM3791]

In 3rd and 4th edition Tau were the 2nd best selling army in 40k, behind space marines.. it looks like the Tau will finally return to its glory days