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Article about competitve 40k
« on: March 04, 2013, 10:37:18 AM »
http://pinsofwar.com/competitive-40k-does-not-exist/

Interesting article about metagaming, lists and tournaments.

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 12:13:26 PM »
Alot of valid points
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 02:20:38 PM »
*shrug*

I disagreed with 90% of it. 

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 02:27:47 PM »
I disagree with a good amount as well especially when youlook at the player pool we have in this area.  Case in point Alex Fennell who takes a average list but continues to do very well.  Why because of player skill.  Also this is why we see the same people winning GT's not because there army is awesome but because of player skill and knowing how to overcome the definciencies in lists.
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 02:39:47 PM »
Also, is the man aware that there are actual Rock/Paper/Scissors tournaments?  Mostly a study in psychology but still, legit tournaments, and the winner is not random. 

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 02:43:29 PM »
Anything can be competitive. Even (especially?) internet threads.

Of course, I know the metagame of internet threads and I am greatly skilled at navigating the waters.
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 02:50:14 PM »
I think there are arguments to be made, but these aren't them.
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 02:52:26 PM »
Anything can be competitive. Even (especially?) internet threads.

Yuuuuuuuuuuup.
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 03:11:19 PM »
I think this article is right on in that 100% of what he says are facts. The thing that amuses me is that he tries to assemble these facts together to try and make a point. To me this reads like: peanut butter is made from peanuts and jelly is usually made from grapes so cars are fast, none of these points are incorrect but the conclusion is absurd. Yes; chess is much more skill based than 40k and meta dictates a lot in 40k but to conclude by those two points independently that this means 40k couldn't possibly competitive is hilarious. By this same token you can just argue that nothing is competitive or could be competitive and while you wouldn't technically be wrong; it doesn't make any more sense.

I would like also include that "bearding" is a sport.

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 03:18:31 PM »
Bearding!!  WTF why want I notified of this!!  Oh hell here comes the braids and the brass beard caps!!
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 03:26:41 PM »
Sorry, no brass caps or braids in competitive bearding meta so you suck. See what I did there??

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 03:37:33 PM »
You cut me deep Bill, I thought we were boys!!  Might as well just shave the damn thing off now!
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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 03:55:11 PM »
Hey I don't make the rules. Watch Whisker Wars; the only only true reality TV. Spoiler alert: it's not about cats.

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 03:55:51 PM »
Spoiler alert: it's not about cats.

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Re: Article about competitve 40k
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 05:42:50 PM »
Bearding!!  WTF why want I notified of this!!  Oh hell here comes the braids and the brass beard caps!!

Bearding is indeed a sport. In fact I think either A&E or Discovery has a show about it.
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