So... Demons... Heard much? (help)

[Chase]

So as you all know, ordering is very difficult considering I never know anything about the new models / stats ahead of time.

Are there any decent, reliable rumors out there as far as what's good, what's not good, and all that?

I'm gonna hold off and place my order tomorrow in hopes of hearing something.

Thanks, guys.

[andalucien]

I wouldn't base any purchase decisions on any of the rumors so far, or even the contents of the white dwarf, since WD doesn't include point costs.

But, if you had to gamble, Soul Grinders having Skyfire seems like it would make them more desirable, and the Tzeentch chariot with Heldrake-like flame weapons would have to be REALLY expensive not to be worthwhile.

[PhoenixFire]

So as you all know, ordering is very difficult considering I never know anything about the new models / stats ahead of time.

Are there any decent, reliable rumors out there as far as what's good, what's not good, and all that?

I'm gonna hold off and place my order tomorrow in hopes of hearing something.

Thanks, guys.

Seems like these guys got a pretty amazing new statline if rumors are to be believed Chase,

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160160a

Here are the rumors

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/02/chaos-daemon-information-instability.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Faeit212+(Faeit+212)&m=1

[Mad Dok Rob]

Seems like these guys got a pretty amazing new statline if rumors are to be believed Chase,

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160160a

Sorry, kind of threw up in my mouth a little when I saw that ONE miniature was 60$.

[PhoenixFire]

Seems like these guys got a pretty amazing new statline if rumors are to be believed Chase,

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1160160a

Sorry, kind of threw up in my mouth a little when I saw that ONE miniature was 60$.

Hey it costs a lot of money for finecast to be that crappy. Imagine how much it would cost if finecast was actually good!


And i agree with andalucian, even if those ap3 torrent flamer chariots cost as much as a land raider point wise they will still sell

[Benjamin]

Chase, I believe you'll want to make sure basic troops are stocked (Nurglings, Plaguebearers, Daemonettes, Bloodletters, Pink Horrors). I'd also stock a couple of each Greater Daemon, plus Daemon Princes.

Have at least one of each named character/Herald, if not two.

Yeah, you'll have to hedge your bets I think. The new stuff, who knows? But players, especially new Daemon players, will need the basics to start.

[andalucien]

ALERT!!!!!!


Check this quote from
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=8000066-gws&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheGamesWorkshopBlogEN+%28White+Dwarf+Daily%29

You'll also have four Blue Horrors spare, which you can add to your unit of Pink Horrors for a splash of colour or use as Horror counters in combat (when a Pink Horror dies they explode into Blue Horrors, which get to scrabble and nibble at their foes before they get squashed).

That is ten kinds of awesome.   It's so cool that even if it's not tourney-viable people will want these (and lots of them, probably)....

[the_trooper]

So AWESOME. Old fluff/ rules renewed?

[Sir_Prometheus]

Order soul grinders and juggernaughts.  Becasue they look badass.

[MM3791]

Yea Chase, you can't go wrong with the basic troops and Greater Daemons. I will say this;

A) A LOT of 6th ed "interweb" lists already include a Tzeench heavy list, and the new Tzeench chariot sounds very powerful and badass.

B) Stong rumors indicate that Nurgle units are coming back with a vengence. Units like Beasts of Nurgle, the new Plague Drones, and regular plaguebears will have great rule buffs and stats. Nurgle units are literally the toughest of the Chaos Daemons to kill, so I think they would be fairly popular to play.

C) New Khorne stuff looks good, but somehow I don't think will be as popular as the Tzeench & Nurgle stuff.

D) Slanesshi units will probably be the least in demand, they are good units but the playstyle is more difficult for newer players to grasp, but the Keeper of Secrets is still awesome

Anyway this is just a very educated guess, BUT MAKES SURE YOU ORDER PLENTY OF CODEXES!

[Chase]

Flamers are no longer AP3.
Screamers aren't the best at everything anymore.
Pink Horrors are 9 points and can't shoot.
He didn't know what the cost of the flamer chariot was.

[Grimwulfe]

Flamers not being ap3 makes me very happy. 

[MM3791]

Flamers are no longer AP3.
Screamers aren't the best at everything anymore.
Pink Horrors are 9 points and can't shoot.

So it looks like the tzeench units took a nerf it if true. If pink horrors can't shoot then I wonder what they can do, since they could never do anything else 

[Chase]

Something about something giving them a bonus when they're in big groups.

I forget what the rep said.

[andalucien]

I know what pink horrors can do.

Cast psychic powers.

Durhhhh

And their mastery level probably goes up in big groups....