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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #90 on: February 26, 2013, 02:08:50 PM »
More rumors from Faeit

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The new Chaos Daemons are going to have some randomness thrown into them, in the form of the Warpstorm table according to the latest White Dwarf battle report and current rumors. This was found on GW fanworld and posted up across the forums. Thought I would share it.


I am not sure whether this is a fantasy version or for 40k. It appears for fantasy with Wardsaves listed, but I cannot imagine that the 40k version will look much different. Rumors have it that this table is to be rolled for every turn.

via sninsch on Warseer
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warpstorm table:
2: all units take a d. instability test
3: one daemon char tests on Leadership with 3D6 and takes wounds like d.instability
4: all daemons -1 ward save
5: affects enemies and nurgle units, through a D6 on a 6 use 5" template S4, DS:
6: affects enemies and tzeentch units: on a 6 D6 hits with S4 DS:3, poison, ignore cover
7: nothing
8: affects enemies and khorne units: on a 6 D6 hits with S6, Ds:-, ignore cover, rending
9: affects enemies and slaanesh: 3" template S8, Ds3
10: +1 wardsave for daemons
11: enemy psiker test on Leadership with 3D6, if failed he dies and a new herold is born
12: a new core unit of is summoned, 2D6+3 models

some of that randomness is quite crazy, and if the daemon player does indeed have to roll this every turn i wonder if it will drive away more competitive gamers who don't build army lists that have a lot to do with chance and luck.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #91 on: February 26, 2013, 02:28:14 PM »
OK, I get it, they're demons, but why does GW think more random = more fun?


#11 especially bothers me.  I think ld 10 fails on 3d6 ~ 50% of the time.  So we're just going to randomly take away enemy characters now?  That's not cool.  I don't know why anybody would ever think that is cool.  Look, the demon players signed up for this random crap, but his opponent didn't. 

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #92 on: February 26, 2013, 02:40:42 PM »
OK, I get it, they're demons, but why does GW think more random = more fun?


#11 especially bothers me.  I think ld 10 fails on 3d6 ~ 50% of the time.  So we're just going to randomly take away enemy characters now?  That's not cool.  I don't know why anybody would ever think that is cool.  Look, the demon players signed up for this random crap, but his opponent didn't.

#11 scares me as well, all i can hope is the 40k version of this is different. All of these are very "open ended" as well, ok so it says "enemy psykers must take a save on 3d6" which psyker? all of them? one chosen by opponent?

a random thing that happens every turn an has an excellent chance of wiping out a 275 pt draigo or 225 pt Mephiston? obviously extremely overpowered and i can only hope this is not a final draft, guess we will see soon when the codex hits

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #93 on: February 26, 2013, 02:55:27 PM »
That is the 40k version. or a BS version.  Fantasy has no "cover saves" or psychers, no abilities like "rending", poison only matters on a to hit roll, rather than to wound.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #94 on: February 26, 2013, 03:47:21 PM »
SO it'll all be fine if we just played fantasy, Keith?

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #95 on: February 26, 2013, 04:06:53 PM »
I think it will all be fine once we have the book in hand.
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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #96 on: February 26, 2013, 05:29:05 PM »
Its fake, it references both ward saves(fantasy) and pyskers(40k) in the same chart. Faiet is a BS site anyways.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #97 on: February 26, 2013, 05:35:58 PM »
Faeit is just a rumor aggregate.  For CSM they were pretty good.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #98 on: February 26, 2013, 06:57:24 PM »
Many of the current rumors are translated from several European languages. I imagine that's how "ward save" made it into things.
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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #99 on: February 26, 2013, 07:14:35 PM »
I think it will all be fine once we have the book in hand.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #100 on: February 26, 2013, 07:17:05 PM »
Bullshit, dudes. This is the BG forum. Either things WILL CHANGE FOREVER FOR THE WORSE AND 40K IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLE or YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG AND I WILL NOW SPEND THIS THREAD DISCUSSING IT. There is no "things will be fine" option.
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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #101 on: February 26, 2013, 07:18:14 PM »
Damn, I have been terribly misinformed...... :'(

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #102 on: February 26, 2013, 07:19:09 PM »
Bullshit, dudes. This is the BG forum. Either things WILL CHANGE FOREVER FOR THE WORSE AND 40K IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLE or YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG AND I WILL NOW SPEND THIS THREAD DISCUSSING IT. There is no "things will be fine" option.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2013, 07:21:42 PM »
I was going to agree with Bill.

Then, 3 new replies have been posted!

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2013, 07:21:58 PM »
Here are my previous post's missing smiley faces.  ;) :) 8) 8) ;D ;D ::) >:( :D ;) :'( ;D :o ::)

There. That should hopefully clear things up for those who wanted it to be anything more than a joke.
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