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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #75 on: February 22, 2013, 11:26:59 PM »
I've only quickly glanced through this thread.  Are they for sure re-doing the greater demons?

Not with this release, the rumors refer to a 2nd wave sometime in the future.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #76 on: February 22, 2013, 11:59:25 PM »
Chariots are super good in this edition, cannot wait to build a chariot spam list!
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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2013, 12:19:45 AM »
Chariots are super good in this edition, cannot wait to build a chariot spam list!

If these rumors hold true i am definitely not looking froward to all these AP3 torrent flamers

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2013, 01:51:37 PM »
If these rumors hold true i am definitely not looking froward to all these AP3 torrent flamers

Well its in the HS slot so I'm pretty sure they have AP3 at the minimum, the tzeench chariots are also supposed to have two firing modes, one anti-infantry and one anti vehicle.

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« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2013, 03:21:41 PM »
The chariot is more than likely a reflection of the current tzerald build people use but with psyker and some new rules/upgrades.  I am interested to see if there is an artifacts section for this book like the last two 6e codexes, as they can add a lot of flavor to the generic hq characters.  I also hope they take some lessons from CSM book and try to make every option/god equally viable.

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« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2013, 03:32:58 PM »
Oh yeah.  One more wishlist thing.  Maybe if I type it here it will come true.

I think that Screamers would be perfect if they lost AP2 on their attacks, but gained the ability to assault flyers.   That would fit in with how the fluff describes them - big ole "piranhas" that attack spacegoing vessels.  And it would give them a specific purpose instead of just being "the best unit against almost everything".
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« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2013, 04:37:52 PM »
http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/02/22/rumor-it-deamon-rules/

Some of this makes me very very excited.

Soul Grinders get skyfire?  Tzeentch daemons get Divination?

the Skyfire would make a lot of sence with Flier spam lately and deamons have Fliers but they can get grounded.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2013, 10:26:43 PM »
The chariot is more than likely a reflection of the current tzerald build people use but with psyker and some new rules/upgrades.  I am interested to see if there is an artifacts section for this book like the last two 6e codexes, as they can add a lot of flavor to the generic hq characters.  I also hope they take some lessons from CSM book and try to make every option/god equally viable.

Um hello, every GOD is viable.. that's what makes a daemon army so thematic. The Tzeench daemonic build has always been shooty, that has always been Tzeench's theme.

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2013, 02:31:19 AM »
I was speaking more to the fact that some gods outshine the others by a long shot.  I hope this codex each god has an equally nice mono build, that way we can see some really nice mono-god and 4 powers builds come out of it. 

I hope the loci powers are really nasty so there is a difficult choice between a killy chariot and the IC options for each herald.  I also see that daemon princes are moved to the hq slot, I hope they follow the two for one slots or have vastly better builds than the csm (black mace or shit) options.  Lastly, make the troops something more than just things to dump on objectives.
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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2013, 10:09:55 AM »
If you go to the GW website, you can see that they are selling monogod starter sets.

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« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2013, 10:19:16 AM »
Those one click collections are irritating. "We think you are too dumb to notice that the price is just the cost of the individual models".

GW thinks their customers are unable to click "add to cart" a couple times.

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« Reply #86 on: February 24, 2013, 10:21:29 AM »
I like where this is heading. I don't know a ton about daemons but like just about every other army a fluffy list is not usually a competitive list.

I'd love to see a mono-god army across the board from me and if the codex has a way to reward the player for taking a mono-god fluffy list all the better

Those one click collections are irritating. "We think you are too dumb to notice that the price is just the cost of the individual models".

GW thinks their customers are unable to click "add to cart" a couple times.

you ain't kidding, the most annoying thing is GW are complete morons when it comes to sales. If they made the bundles actually attractive by even cutting 5% off the total price they would easily double the amount of those bundles they've actually sold
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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #87 on: February 24, 2013, 11:08:30 AM »
So they'd sell 2 bundles?  I don't think anyone buys them.  But if you guys think thats cool, you should buy three stormtalons for the price of 3!
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« Reply #88 on: February 24, 2013, 12:37:17 PM »
So they'd sell 2 bundles?  I don't think anyone buys them.  But if you guys think thats cool, you should buy three stormtalons for the price of 3!

Pretty much,

on a smarter side of things forgeworld has been doing bundles lately

for example six 5 man tac squads, 3 weapon sets and a command upgrade set for 160 sterling

or 3 Contemptor dreads and 6 weapons for 120 sterling

They don't save you a ton, 20 sterling and 24 sterling respectively (about 30 and 37 respectively american dollar) frigging conversion rate....

The point is they save you money, and they're not for everyone because "hey maybe i don't want those weapons that come with that dread bundle" but i guarentee they are selling the bundles for the simple fact that even it it saves you 5 bucks you will have people jump on it because a deal is a deal

GW are idiots. their "bundles" don't save you anything and therefore are unattractive. Yes i know their sales are up despite the 20% price hike they gave to everything last June but if they keep up sticking it to their customers they are going to price a lot of people right out of the hobby who don't have disposable incomes.

smarten up GW

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Re: Chaos Demons very shortly, apparently.
« Reply #89 on: February 24, 2013, 01:11:27 PM »
"But that guy sucks..."  "Yeah, but hes a demon on a motorcycle, your logic is invalid"

LOL.  He really does suck though.