Some quick help: Typhus, Quad Guns, zombies, tally

[Benjamin]

Words need someone to interpret them.

Battleground has Sam, so it's more than covered.

[Sir_Prometheus]

You....realize that doesn't actually address his point.  Sam is smart guy, but he's still just guy trying to make sense of GWs crappy, unclear, imprecise and sometimes even contradictory rules. 

Look my point, and I guess the other Matt's too, is that sometimes if follow GWs dumbe, untechnical rules in a technical way, you actually wind up with a ruling that is pretty clearly the opposite of what they intended.  And if you choose to do it the RAW way, you're actually just furthering the dumbness. 

Everyone used to accept the INAT FAQ as gospel, and with good reason, I think.  (unfortunately the main organizer of that has seemed to have lost interest in doing it)  And the INAT FAQ would occasionally rule in favor of RAI, rather than RAW.  Or more likely, ust use RAI when RAW was unclear.  Not like a tons of times, but occasionally, when necessary.  In fact, I even think that may be where our common use of the abbreviation came from. 

[Achillius]

Silly question, but are you allowed to place a blast marker so it covers one of your own models?



Cheers,
Alan

[Grimwulfe]

Alan in this case I believe Typgus rule is any model under the template gets hit or something like that.  He is not targeting the unit just using his special rule that places a template over his head.

[Achillius]

Alan in this case I believe Typgus rule is any model under the template gets hit or something like that.  He is not targeting the unit just using his special rule that places a template over his head.

Seems odd, but I'll take your word for it, sounds like I need a copy of that codex to read

[Achillius]

And as someone who's been playing these games for faaaar too long I'll add this; In general, I've found that if you take a GW rule at first glance and don't try and dissect it for advantage, you usually come out with the right answer....


Cheers,
Alan

[Sir_Prometheus]

I would agree with that--they're mostly meant to be read "intuitively", i.e. non-technically.  Which I think is a horrible way to do things, but it is what it is. 

[GossWeapon]

Tau still suck, just saying.  Maybe you should act like an adult.

[the_trooper]

Yes. I think it was completely intended. So much so that they made the codex with the rule written that way. Do you disregard all rules you don't like?

Do you really, honestly think there's even only one RAW interpretation?  Or are you just pretending so in order to be combative?  Because seriously, there's nothing saying you can charge an unattended emplaced gun.  It's not an enemy model.  There's also nothing saying you can't...it just has no precedent, at all. 

What?

It's pretty clear the intention for Typhus to be able to kill his own dudes. If your opponent as a model, you can attack it.

I just don't understand why you are getting so upset about this. Maybe if this happens at the tournament and you get stuffed by it, I can buy you a beer or a Shirley temple or something.

[Sir_Prometheus]

Trooper are you listening?  It's not about typhus, it's about whether you can charge an unattended gun.


Goss, why do you keep mentioning tau? What does that have to do with anything?

[the_trooper]

Trooper are you listening?  It's not about typhus, it's about whether you can charge an unattended gun.

No, I'm reading you not being clear about your intent.

EDIT:

Also, please read my whole post before you get flustered and hit reply.

[Sir_Prometheus]

I did.    You and I seem to have trouble communicating, Trooper.

I do not think the RAW is clear.  The reason I think that is because I do not think it's clear you can charge a neutral gun. This has implications beyond typhus--it could be used to get an extra 2d6 of movement in certains situations, generally. 

I also think it's against RAI, and yes, I almost feel that's more important.  No, I do not think GW intended for you to follow a loophole to light off typhus's destroyer hive without engaging the enemy.  I don't think they even thought of it, really.  Want to destroy some of your cultists "by accident" while assaulting the actual enemy, though?  Go nuts. 

Is that clear? 

[Typhus]

Alan in this case I believe Typgus rule is any model under the template gets hit or something like that.  He is not targeting the unit just using his special rule that places a template over his head.

Seems odd, but I'll take your word for it, sounds like I need a copy of that codex to read

Staying on point;

You place the marker with the hole on Typhus, and it specifically states that all models (friend *and foe) take the hits.  It's not really a target-able effect so its legal.

And I am so having a Rhino fire the Quad-Gun.  "Yeah, you see that tread right there?  My driver is so awesome he's using it to push the fire button"

[Sir_Prometheus]

And I am so having a Rhino fire the Quad-Gun.  "Yeah, you see that tread right there?  My driver is so awesome he's using it to push the fire button"

I will pull out your ear-barbell. 

[Logan007]

Alan in this case I believe Typgus rule is any model under the template gets hit or something like that.  He is not targeting the unit just using his special rule that places a template over his head.

Seems odd, but I'll take your word for it, sounds like I need a copy of that codex to read

Staying on point;

You place the marker with the hole on Typhus, and it specifically states that all models (friend *and foe) take the hits.  It's not really a target-able effect so its legal.

And I am so having a Rhino fire the Quad-Gun.  "Yeah, you see that tread right there?  My driver is so awesome he's using it to push the fire button"

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