Some quick help: Typhus, Quad Guns, zombies, tally

[Chase]

This was FAQ'd or something, right?

Typhus can't assault a quad gun and kill a ton of zombies so that Epidemius get's his tally up anymore... Or I think I read something like that.

Do Zombies no longer have the mark or something?

Thanks.

[andalucien]

Zombies don't have the mark.  That's right

[Typhus]

It doesn't matter if Zombies have the mark.  Typhus does, and he is the one causing models killed, which is what triggers the tally.

Yes, I know.  Its "neutral" and the rules say that you can shoot and assault it on its own.  I mean, you can be TFG and do the trick, but personally I think it's a waste of points and a scoring unit.  Personally, I think you can't because you purchased it out of your Force Org.

Plus, there's no guarantee you will get Epidemus on the board first turn so it's potentially pointless.

[GossWeapon]

Can you charge your own guys in this edition?

Otherwise, zombies have no marks or guns.

[Loranus]

This actually confused the crap out of me on first read.  No plague zombies do not carry the mark of nurgle and are not considered followers of nurgle so they can not count toward Epidemius's tally.

[Benjamin]

It doesn't matter if Zombies have the mark.  Typhus does, and he is the one causing models killed, which is what triggers the tally.

This part is true.

Players who use this are TFG. They're also kinda silly, since it's not particularly effective, as described above.

[Dan Bunker]

should still work, wasn't in any FAQ that i saw. It doesn't matter that the cultists dont have marks as they are not causing the models to be removed, Tyhpus is. The gun can be attacked by either side in hand to hand or shooting. I dont run chaos anymore and find this very cheesy but the rules fit.

[Chase]

thanks people

[Rekarof]

Not sure if this is what you guys are talking about but in Chaos Daemons it say this:

Q: Do models nominated as Plague Zombies from Codex: Chaos Space Marines count as followers of Nurgle for the purposes of Epidemius’Tally of Pestilence? (p52)

A: No

[Chase]

Thanks!  I thought I saw it in the FAQ!!



Although I guess what these guys are saying is that Typhus is doing the "killing" (by blowing up the quad gun) and the zombies dying ups the tally because Typhus gets credit for the kills.

Interesting anyhow.

[Grimwulfe]

How does blowing up a quad gun kill the sqaud?

[Typhus]

Thanks!  I thought I saw it in the FAQ!!



Although I guess what these guys are saying is that Typhus is doing the "killing" (by blowing up the quad gun) and the zombies dying ups the tally because Typhus gets credit for the kills.

Interesting anyhow.

What it is is that "Models with the Mark of Nurgle" gain all the benefits from the Tally.  Since Zombies do not have the mark, they cannot get feel no pain on a 3+, or have weapons that ignore armor.

Exactly - It's models killed by a model with the Mark of Nurgle which is what drives the Tally.

[Typhus]

How does blowing up a quad gun kill the sqaud?

The trick is Typhus, and a huge blob of Cultists.  You assault the Quad Gun, and then cram as many cultists next to Typhus as possible.  You activate the Destroyer Hive (once per game, instead of throwing attacks, place large blast marker over Typhus, every other model hit by marker takes a S4, Ap2 hit).  On a 3+ cultists die, and for every model killed its a mark on the tally - It's got to be cultists, because if you use Zombies you can screw it up by making FNP rolls for them.

[Grimwulfe]

Ah I see its a template got it. 

[Sir_Prometheus]

I personally do not think this particular trick should be allowed.  On the very technical grounds that it is stupid.  No, I don't think you're especially likely to see it tried, at least not by a good player, who probably has better plans, but it would just be annoying and infuriating to see it done.