Dark Angels not for 6 months?

[PhoenixFire]

New rumors out today point to Hobbit crap for December, Daemons in January (where the hell did that come from?) and DA in April?!

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/10/release-schedule-rumors-news-sometimes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Faeit212+%28Faeit+212%29

via Stickmonkey on Warseer
Just going to leave this here as the DA thread is closed now.

Looks like my sourcing is again off on timelines. So I'm putting in an update on it here, lots of things have changed to me since my last timeline thread. (I want to repeat, these are rumors, almost none of this really "changes" per se, GW's got their plan, I don't, I get information that aligns from a few sources and try to base what I tell you on that)

Was correct on WoC for Nov, as that's in the bag now, moving on to Dec.

Dec:
No DA. Boo. Hiss. Eating crow again. Looks like what we can expect for Dec is a lot of Hobbit as expected, and I believe a little surprise is still in store.
There is an outside possibility of 2 terrain pieces and 3 flyers, but I'm really expecting these now to be in a spring wave.

Jan:
Daemons. Still on track. Vetock doing WFB and 40k books, but I havent had confirmation that the books are actually coming in Jan. Expect Greater Daemons in plastic, a couple new chariots, a new daemon engine, and a couple new characters (well...characters which have never received models) Word is the Daemons update will not be a huge overhaul to the current book. Expect few new units. But the new GD models are phenomenal, love every one of them, especially the new GUO. None of the new units are single system, everything is in both 40k and WFB now.

Feb:
Hobbit/LOTR are the biggest contendors right now.
Might be a splash month for 40k in the form of that missing flyers wave. Still trying to get more info on when it might see light of day.

March:
Rumors point to WoC Army book. But with all the new models coming in Nov, I'm not sure what is left to release with it.

April:
New rumored slot for DA now. Yes, I'm sorry, rumoring sucks, you get told a lot and its very difficult to sort out what is fit to pass on and what is not.
However, I am being told some of those rumored generic SM kits may get released along side the DA codex and DA specific models. So thats something promising.

May:
WFB model wave and army book. High Elves I'm being told.

June:
Nothing hard, rumors range from the flyer wave to Tau to new fortifications to the 40k supplement book (allies?)
Lead contendor is the Flyers if they dont get an earlier slot.

July:
Most likely slot for this rummored 40k supplement book.

Beyond that:
Tau and Eldar are the only codexes with some weight behind it to come late in the year I expect Tau following DA, and right now it does look like Eldar will follow Tau.

I should also add the 2nd Horus Heresy book from FW is being rumored to me to be late Spring/Early Summer.

(...)
Pretty sure we have Vetock doing CD, Ward on DA, Cruddace on Tau, Kelly on Eldar. FWIW


the digital release schedule I had was incorrect, I said it elsewhere way back in August. I was going off what I was told which was that WFB was not going to get any digital releases this year. A lot of work is going into these, more than just copying an existing codex into a PDF. A lot of it is done, and waiting on some new digital assets. There is a digital rulebook that I was told was to be released a week before the HB, then with the HB, then with the SB, and nothing has happened on that front...maddenly frustrating sometimes.

The ork wave is still out there, I still expect it in 2013, but I haven't had any new updates.

[Mad Dok Rob]

i don't know what bothers me more....

having to wait so long for the new codex...
...or the fact that Matt Ward is writing it.  i cannot wait until i get to read about how my DA wear robes to hide their shame at not being Ultramarines.  And I am sure that he will have us slaughtering some SoB too.  At least they should be wonderfully costed like GK.

(must fix spelling errors)

[Benjamin]

Daemons codex, hmm? We knew after White Dwarf this would happen at some point. Make sense enough.

I know better than to get excited. I'm expecting base 6+ invulnerable saves.

[Seth]

doesn't the rulebook give deamons 5+ auto?

[Loranus]

Yup anyone with the Daemon Special Rule has a 5+ invulnerable unless otherwise Stated.

[Benjamin]

Codex overrides rulebook.

[the_trooper]

i dont know what bothers me more....

having to wait so long for the new codex...
...or the fact that Matt Ward is writing it.  i cannot wait until i get to read about my DA wear robes to hide their same at not being Ultramarines.  And I am sure hat he will have us slaughtering some SoB too.  At least they should be wonderfully costed like GK.

How about all the new DA players whose armor happens to look a lot like the Aegis but green...

[BrianP]

Daemons codex, hmm? We knew after White Dwarf this would happen at some point. Make sense enough.

I know better than to get excited. I'm expecting base 6+ invulnerable saves.

Hey, my Sisters all have a 6+ invul save and it is pretty cool 

It could be worse, you may end up with only a single troops choice!

[the_trooper]

Daemons codex, hmm? We knew after White Dwarf this would happen at some point. Make sense enough.

I know better than to get excited. I'm expecting base 6+ invulnerable saves.

Hey, my Sisters all have a 6+ invul save and it is pretty cool 

It could be worse, you may end up with only a single troops choice!

Or no "real" codex. 

[MM3791]

When daemons are released it will be a duel system release (Fantasy & 40k), just like when they were released in 2008. However this rumor doesn't mean anything, Stickmoney is almost always wrong with the timing of his predicted releases, if he's right it will be by accident lol 

[keithb]

Books often follow spash WD releases within a year though.  Last year the Vamp Counts WD was around the same time as the Demon one this year, and they got a new book in Jan.

[andalucien]

GW isn't giving much of a window to play my non-chaos armies.

I'm a little afraid of how awesome the new Greater Daemon models are going to be.

This will also be welcome from another perspective:  right now flamers and screamers are just too good.   When they lose Eternal Warrior that will help bring them back down to earth just a bit.

[MM3791]

Books often follow spash WD releases within a year though.  Last year the Vamp Counts WD was around the same time as the Demon one this year, and they got a new book in Jan.

This was also true with the WOC release back in 2008, roughly the same time warriors, beastmen, and daemons were split into 3 seperate army books. I wonder if the next edition of fantasy will also include allies.. hmm..

I'm a little afraid of how awesome the new Greater Daemon models are going to be.

Best. Quote. Ever. Lol

[Sir_Prometheus]

Codex overrides rulebook.

Maybe so, but they're not going to make the whole demon codex worse than the generic rule, they're just not. 

[Seth]

that sounds more like hope