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Grand Master Steve

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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2012, 09:55:06 PM »
your answer seems to be in the irrata with this sentence.

Therefore, any attacks that use blast markers, templates, create a line of/area of effect or
otherwise don’t roll to hit cannot target them.

It creates area of effect and only snap shots can hit Swooping Monstrus creatures or zooming fliers.

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2012, 10:32:32 PM »
I think it's a question of whether these count as "attacks" or not.

It's not clear that Imhotekh's power is an "attack", and even if it is, the storm doesn't "roll to hit" per se, but it does only hit each unit on a roll of a 6...  is that like a roll to hit?  I don't know.  I think this FAQ needs an FAQ.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 10:37:02 PM »
RAW also says in the faq that only snap shots can hit them in addition to anything with the skyfire rule.

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2012, 12:20:00 AM »
If I was judge (I'm not) I'd say that Immotekh's power works, Njal's doesn't.  Just because Immotekh's more a global effect, Njal is more an attack.  But that's more a gut feeling than something reasoned out.  If they both had to be the same way, neither should work. 

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 12:43:50 AM »
I am going to put it into a Different Perspective for you Matt because I will disagree that Imotekh's Does not work against flyers.

You roll a D6 to see if the Power Manifests against a Squad. If it does you automatically hit d6 times. You are not rolling to hit cause you are not using the BS to hit the target. So therefore if a Flyer is Zooming Imotekh's power would not work against it.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 12:59:23 AM »
If its an "attack" which it may not be.

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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2012, 03:44:04 AM »
Just shoot the flier with 4 s7 tesla shots dog, its all fuckin gravy
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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2012, 08:08:47 AM »
That's probably what I'm gonna do, switch the doom to a night.  Then roll'n sixes are just that more fun.  And I can beam down gauss shoot'n dudes :)
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2012, 09:45:56 AM »
Just shoot the flier with 4 s7 tesla shots dog, its all fuckin gravy
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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 01:46:15 PM »
Of course this still leaves open the question of whether global effects that are not "attacks" or "weapons", like the storms of Njal and Imhotekh, can hit flyers.   Mike Brandt says, yes they can.

Q: How do maelstroms, novas and beams – or indeed any weapon
that doesn’t need to roll To Hit or hits automatically – interact with
Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures? (p13)
A: Only Snap Shots can hit Zooming Flyers and Swooping
Flying Monstrous Creatures. Therefore, any attacks that use
blast markers, templates, create a line of/area of effect or
otherwise don’t roll to hit cannot target them. This includes
weapons such as the Necron Doom Scythe’s death ray or the
Deathstrike missile of the Imperial Guard, and psychic
powers that follow the rule for maelstroms, beams, and
novas.

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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2012, 02:25:51 PM »
i agree with Mr. Rick you can only snap shot at them anything else wont hit.

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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2012, 02:29:58 PM »
Just to be clear - the Brandt ruling I'm talking about was in RESPONSE the new FAQ.   
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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2012, 02:33:16 PM »
So Brandt made a ruling a week after his tournament and his thoughts on the matter will not matter again for another 358 days?

He was right in his ruling at the time at NOVA, but now we got FAQs, we got FAQs

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Re: New FAQ's are out.
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2012, 02:33:56 PM »
I fail to see how rolling a 6 to see if the Lightning bolt strikes an unengaged unit is different than rolling a 6 to hit.
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2012, 02:38:38 PM »
You are rolling a 6, and if the 6 is rolled the model is hit with d6 s8 ap5 attacks.  You did not roll to hit, the 6 is not a "to hit" roll.  You are rolling to see if the effect is generated and if the effect is generated you get d6 hits.  There is no "to-hit" roll involved