Looking for help with my IG list

[PhoenixFire]

Hey guys, so i'm working on my second army now and since all my GK lists lean towards shooting i figured hey why not IG, so i'm doing IG with a Russian / Vostroyan theme.

But as i've never played IG, and there are very few IG players down the Plainville way i'm looking for some advice.

Here is my first 1850 list, looking for thoughts and critiques

HQ1: CCS + vox + Officer of the fleet, Master of ordnance = 115

Troop1: PCS + vox + 2 naked infantry squads + 3 heavy weapons squads = 350

Troop2: Vets + 3 melta + Chimera = 155

Troop3: Vets + 3 melta + Chimera = 155

Troop4: Vets + 3 melta + Chimera = 155

Elite1: Ratlings x8 = 80

FA 1: Vendetta = 130
FA 2: Vendetta = 130

Heavy 1: Basilisk x2 =250
heavy 2: Basic Russ x2 = 300

total: 1820 ( a few points to play with)

-My thoughts are to have the Basilisks and the Russ's far back in the corners dropping pie plates, (along with master of ordnance), want to un-squadron one or the other, probably a russ since the Basilisks have barrage
-park the PCS on a home objective and have the 9 HWT try to level 6E heavy troops with 27 S5 shots (can TL with orders towards MCs)
-although for the same price i can do autocannons for better range and S7
-Vendettas for anti-tank/anti-air
-Vets running around in the now paper Chimeras trying not to die
-Ratlings hopefully doing some good with the buffs to snipers

i've got tons of other models i'd love to include and try out (like my banewolf, manticores, more and more russ's and maybe a scout sentintal squadron) but i always seem to run out of points fast

Thinking about a primaris psyker as well

thoughts?
thanks in advance

 

[Sir_Prometheus]

The only thing I can say with certainty is that more vendettas is going to = more better, for the short term.   

[PhoenixFire]

The only thing I can say with certainty is that more vendettas is going to = more better, for the short term.

My thinking as well, their cost and buffs to flyers beg them to be taken. I'm debating shuffling things around for a 3rd but i may just save that for 2k+ games

[Benjamin]

Autocannons are better than Heavy Bolters, whatever the points difference may be.

Guns for IG are so cheap, I feel like it's a waste to have two naked squads in your first choice, unless the plan is to just have them buff out the HWTs with ablative wounds. I'm not sure it's necessary, most HWTs are run usually on their own, or in the middle of 50-man blobs...

[Banosby]

A few quick notes:

Put some of those HWTs in the infantry squads. Ablative wounds are a good thing.

I'd need to check the rules, but I think you need a vox in both squads to make it work, not just the one issuing the orders. Also, they kinda suck. If you want to make sure your orders are going off all the time, go with a Lord Commissar.

Snipers still aren't good. If you want to run them, I'd add in a PBS so that pinning gets a lot more reliable. Actually, with the changes to blast weapons, PBS got a decent buff.

Put a HWT or some special weapons in the command squad.

Think about a defense line. Should work for your tanks as well.

[jhobin]

Vox's generally are not worth it. I would look into taking naked line squads with krak grenades or vet's to through in the vendetta's. There cheap and if you find yourself in a good position 10 Krak grenades thrown at the back of a tank isn't a bad thing.

PBS have to be on the grounds now right to use there power?

Does the Aegis block enough of a chimera chasis to get a save?

[Achillius]

Vox's generally are not worth it. I would look into taking naked line squads with krak grenades or vet's to through in the vendetta's. There cheap and if you find yourself in a good position 10 Krak grenades thrown at the back of a tank isn't a bad thing.

PBS have to be on the grounds now right to use there power?

Does the Aegis block enough of a chimera chasis to get a save?

I like a vox in a blob, it helps get you that leadership reroll on orders, but on smaller squads, it is questionable.

As for grenades, I'd love to be able to throw 10, but alas, you can only throw one type per unit at any time. I Imagine a scene where everyone is looking nervously, while the thrower reads the instructions

as for PBS yes, they can't be mounted and cast, makes for an interesting change in Psykers

Cheers,
Alan

[PhoenixFire]

Thanks for the responses guys,

-Your all right about the voxs, i do need them on both ends
-I am going to go with the autocannons vs heavy bolters
-Im playing around with the list now and shuffling some points but i think i will buff the naked squads
-Debating trading the basilisks for medusas since im expecting to see lots of termies and cheaper than lr demolishers
-Debating deploying manticores instead for the d3 pieplates (although its ap4)

I've got a good chunk of my armor assembled but i wanted to nail down most of the weapons before i start assembling my vostroyans ( i magnitized EVERYTHING on my GKs and im not going though that headache again)

I'm looking forward to getting some games in once i do have my guys assembled, IG certainly has a lot more options than GK
And im loving the bigger toolbox but it means a lot more combinations which obviously some wont work as well as others

[Banosby]

Two things.

1. Never try to get things 'nailed down' without a lot of games under your belt. It just makes you sad when you realize half-way through the painting process that you actually want to switch that squad around.

2. No has mentioned this yet, but Valhallans are super awesome and totally the best IG around. You should probably buy a bunch of them at your first opportunity and for whatever the guy wants for them. They're that good.

[PhoenixFire]

Two things.

1. Never try to get things 'nailed down' without a lot of games under your belt. It just makes you sad when you realize half-way through the painting process that you actually want to switch that squad around.

2. No has mentioned this yet, but Valhallans are super awesome and totally the best IG around. You should probably buy a bunch of them at your first opportunity and for whatever the guy wants for them. They're that good.

Yah i learned that with my GK... fortuently everything was magnitized lol at least the general concensus on vet squads is meltas or plasma (apparently plasma is the new black in 6e?)

Zomg! Valhallans!? I should throw money in the form of store credit right in somebodys face for those immediately!!  Too bad simon moved to new york already

But on a more serious note i almost bought a lot of them from ebay but it came with a bunch of rough riders which didnt seem that impressive in the codex, i think the look of some valhallans mixed with vostroyans will make for a nice aesthetic and differentiate the vets and regular army

[Benjamin]

Yah i learned that with my GK... fortuently everything was magnitized lol at least the general concensus on vet squads is meltas or plasma (apparently plasma is the new black in 6e?)

Zomg! Valhallans!? I should throw money in the form of store credit right in somebodys face for those immediately!!  Too bad simon moved to new york already

Plasma is the new black. And Simon hasn't moved yet.

[PhoenixFire]

Yah i learned that with my GK... fortuently everything was magnitized lol at least the general concensus on vet squads is meltas or plasma (apparently plasma is the new black in 6e?)

Zomg! Valhallans!? I should throw money in the form of store credit right in somebodys face for those immediately!!  Too bad simon moved to new york already

Plasma is the new black. And Simon hasn't moved yet.

I know, i was having some fun with him.

Other than plasma pew pewing terminators i need to read up on it in the book to see what the hub bubs about

[Benjamin]

I'll be more than glad to talk with you Thursday about IG, if you're going to be around.

[PhoenixFire]

I'll be more than glad to talk with you Thursday about IG, if you're going to be around.

Thanks ben,

I should be there the normal time thursday since we are cutting our nantucket trip short

[Benjamin]

I should be there the normal time thursday since we are cutting our nantucket trip short

You know, there was once a man from Nantucket.