Polling the Next Warhams Tournament

[Achillius]

Hmm,
     option 1 works, that means nids are still nids but they can team with a non-nid player. Just qualify them as desperate for the proximity rule and basically be enemies you can't shoot.

There's some more pieces to wrap into there for sure but it could be entertaining and the doubles matches are supposed to be that way.

Cheers,
Alan

[MM3791]

Downsides. 1 could potentially be a logistical nightmare and army lists would have to be turned in sooner than usual.

I'm not really sure how it would be a logistical nighmare, it would still be player 1 vs player 2.

[Benjamin]

For starters, do we apply Levels of Alliance across 4 codices? This also places a larger burden on the staff (Sam) who thoroughly check the army lists.

[Sir_Prometheus]

I'm not sure I see the complication.  Graham (nid player) and I make a team.  Graham is stuck with his loan self, cuz everyone hates bugs, and I (cuz, y'know, imperial is better) can add in most things. 

Everything else is exactly the same.  If I had any battle brothers, they would be battle brothers to me, not Graham.  Allies of convenience are pretty much how doubles treat each others armies anyway.  "unholy alliance", if say, I picked DE, would presumably only apply to me as well.

For extra fun, if you wanted, you could apply the matrix between teams, treating "can't ally" as the unholy alliance.  I don't think this represents any extra book keeping for Sam, as I'm sure one's opponents will be more than willing to enforce it.

But I don't really recommend that, cuz frankly, tyranid players have had a bad enough run of it.  People will want to know why tyrnaids can be on any team with anybody at all, yadda yadda, and besides, I'm selfish, my main bud plains tyranids. 

[andalucien]

Yes... it would be really harsh to tell a guy who only owns nids "Sorry, you can't play in the team tournament unless you can find another nid player".

[keithb]

armies can't ally with themselves either.

[Sir_Prometheus]

Truth is, I can't really see me doing allies at 1250.

[keithb]

It's not all about you matt. 

[Sir_Prometheus]

That's it.  Nids can never play in team tournaments.  I'm calling it now. 

[keithb]

I am strongly considering just moving on to another army already....

[Sir_Prometheus]

What?!?  But now is your time!  Flyrants!  16 crazy ass psychics in one army! No fearless wounds!  Broodlords that take Iron arm or some such and hulk out on the enemy!

[keithb]

Flyrants are a 3+ save with 4 wounds.  getting wounded on 4+(at worst generally) by things that hit them, not to mention everyone being able to use grenades in CC now against them.

[Sir_Prometheus]

Well, you can cry about how weak it is, but I'm scared to death of it, frankly.  Just fly high and cherry pick all day, unless I get lucky.

[keithb]

That is only because you haven't thought about it.

1 psyrifleman dread.   

4 shots, twin linked.   Hit on sixes, reroll misses.  First of all, you have a 2/3 chance that you will get one hit, before rerolls.  Assuming you don't, you still have a 2/3 chance to get one hit with the reroll.  Then I have a 1/3 chance to fall down, and basically take a wound.   Then your army rapes me.  I am only down 230~ point!  sweet.

[Sir_Prometheus]

I have thought about it.  I think it worked out to 1.2 "6's" on average.  So 1/3 chance of you crashing, so there's about 40% chance of you crashing.

I was about to say you could jink, but I don't think that remove the fact you've been hit, so nevermind.

You're right, that's kinda nasty but I'm not sure I'd go with the idea that you're just dead after that.  Tyrants managed to survive getting shot at before, and I think we'll see less missle launchers everywhere after this.