Warhammer 40k 6th Edition Rules Questions

[Grand Master Steve]

Sam I 100% support your rulings. I think your explentation is the most logical way to go up an unfortunate slippery slope.

[Loranus]

I have 2nd edition sm assault marines armed with axes, and still have a few axe bits.  They could take them in 2nd edition.  Since the newest assault marine box set does not include axes, do I have to use them as power swords, or can I use them as power axes, since the models came with them?

That is Weird I have a Power Axe come in Both Assault Marine Boxes I seen open as well as A Death Company.

Now for a Really weird and very specific situation wise question about Assault. You pile in 3" on your initiative step.

Space Marine Techmarine without a Power Weapon and Servo Harness. He has 2 Initiatives he strikes at His Normal 4 and his Harness Strikes at 1.

Techmarine is with an Infantry Guard Platoon whos Initiative 3 fighting Necron Warriors Initiative 2. He manages to kill a Necron at his initiative so the Guard Pile into the spot where that Necron was at Initiative 3 and kill some more Necron. At Initiative Step 2 the Necrons manage to kill some of the guard leaving a gap where the Techmarine is not in Base Contact with a Necron Warrior or 2" of a friendly Model. DOES he Get a Pile In at Initiative Step 1 for his Servo Harness Attacks or is he Crap out of Luck?

[Sir_Prometheus]

Except, he doesn't   Because the techmarine model I know of, comes with an axe.  SO he's all initiaitve 1.  And according to you, Sam, I can't switch that out.  (Well, actually, I can pay for any of like 5 different NFW upgrades, but vanilla marines can't)

[Loranus]

Power Weapon doesn't Come Standard on a Techmarine so if I don't give him the upgrade he does not have it therefore he has 2 different Initiative Values. This comes into play with the Techmarine Gunner for a Thunderfire Cannon who has a servo-harness but does not have a power weapon.

So he does.

[Sir_Prometheus]

So it is.  But if you were to upgrade him, it had better be an axe!  Apparently. 

[Loranus]

Nah I would give a Thunder Hammer.

[Typhus]

So, while this may tie into the Power Weapon, What Is It Good For Thread, it's also a rules question;

As previously ruled, a model with a Power Weapon must use the option as designed on the original model from Citadel.

So what type of Power Weapon is a Burna?  Since the model has no representation, do Orks get to model whatever they want on it?  Or are they going to be restricted to swords only, as a generic baseline?

[Sir_Prometheus]

So getting away from the power weapon thing for a sec:

The language on grenades and difficult terrain and initiative 1 used to be something like "if the unit takes a difficult terrain test, it attacks at initiative 1 (unless grenades)"

Now the language has changed to "if the unit moves through difficult terrain"

Now various units, such as Wraiths and Beasts (now) ignore difficult terrain.  Jumpers, it seems like, can actually jump over terrain, if they didn't use their jump packs in the movement phase. 

In the wraiths case, it says "Wraiths are never slowed by difficult terrain"

Previously, that would have meant they don't need grenades.  But now, they're still passing though the terrain......wouldn't that make them Initiative 1?  (not always a big difference, for them) 

[keithb]

units that ignore terrain, ignore it!

Units that go over, didn't go through!

[Sir_Prometheus]

units that ignore terrain, ignore it!

Units that go over, didn't go through!

Maybe?  I'd say you have a stonger case with beasts than wraiths.  Because wraiths don't ignore it, exactly,  they just don't take a test. 

[Achillius]

I'd use the definition ignore = disregard, which means you substitute the terrains reality for your own, and move as if it was not there.

[Sir_Prometheus]

OK, few more rules questions for Sam (besides wraith movement).

When taking Allies, do you need to take manadatory choices?  Firewarriors and Commaders for Tau (versus Kroot and ethereals) or the emperor's champion for Black Templars?

Commander Farsight attacks "as a monstrous creature in CC".  Does that mean he has Smash and AP2?

[Sir_Prometheus]

hehe, just though of another one:

Does the 1mm line drawn by a doom scythe count as "template"?  This matters for whether it can hit flyers.  The same ruling would apply to psychic beam attacks, I would think. 

Do beams and Novas need to roll to hit? 

[JWebs]

hehe, just though of another one:

Does the 1mm line drawn by a doom scythe count as "template"?  This matters for whether it can hit flyers.  The same ruling would apply to psychic beam attacks, I would think. 

Do beams and Novas need to roll to hit?

Beams and Novas say that they automatically hit.
Also isn't template only referring to the flame template? The other two are blast and large blast and are specified in the fliers rules as also being unable to hit. The three of them aren't all "templates".

[Sir_Prometheus]

OK, great.  Then all these 1mm lines and novas are a great way to hit flyers.