[Battleground] Megabattle 2012 - August 18th

[Chase]

Yeah, they'll be there.  Some of them are just GIANT slackers.

[cryptoron]

Not sure if it has been decided/discussed yet, but has there been a decision on how Entropic Strike will affect super heavy vehicles?

[Captain Bryan!]

RETURN
OF THE
MASTER
OF THE
FORGE

[Librarian]

entropic strike vs super heavy vehicles they only suffer a loss of armor value on a roll of 6 rather than 4+.

[Grand Master Steve]

I cant wait to see Eldar Super Heavies be used. Will be my first time seeing them in action

[Lykosan]

You mean there is going to be actual Eldar Super Heavies and not a frisbee?

[Grand Master Steve]

according to my sorces yes legit Forge World Models.

[Seth]

who has them?

[Randl]

I am really upset that I have to go into work for a on the 18th.
I may have to stop by after work to see some of those Eldar models

[Grand Master Steve]

who has them?

Im not sure seth do you know him?

[Chase]

ok so alot of the changes in 6e that people talk about don't actually effect a mega battle things like secondary force org charts and allies, but one of the new rules warlord traits should be looked at. Most of them are perfectly fine but I can see issues with a few of them due to the nature of such a large game and  the number of people involved.

Command Trait #2 intimidating presence unlike the rest of the command traits that only effect your units and are easy for a player to remember this one effects all enemies within 12" and could be a bit of a pain for everyone involved.

Personal Trait #4 the mega battle deals with victory points in its own way and letting characters generate extra ones every round in a challenge could cause problems.

Strategic Traits #2, 4, 5, and 6. #2 starts the game with night fight which is a pain and coupled with some of the assets in apoc could allow people to shut down the game for the first few turns. #'s 4, 5 and 6 all rely on reserves and set up rules that are not used in this game. # 3 is also possibly a problem but to a much lesser degree.

Dealing with warlord traits can go a couple of ways, we could ban them but that's heavy handed and will cause problems next year as the new codexs will sometimes have custom warlord lists as well as giving named characters unique warlord traits already factored into there cost.

we could have a list of unusable traits and have people reroll if they get them, we could even write a whole mega battle only list of traits.

But the easiest method is to take a page out of the apocalypse rules and reduce randomness. Just allow each player to pick which trait there warlord has, have it listed on there army list beside there warlord, this gives everyone a bit more customization and eliminates the need for every player to have to roll before the game starts, there will be a lot of pre game rolling for psychic powers as it is without adding warlord traits to the mix.

Well, Josh... You just earned yourself some homework.  I'll post in the Disorder board.

[Librarian]

Homework, will there be a chance to copy off the kid next to me in home room?

[Achillius]

But the easiest method is to take a page out of the apocalypse rules and reduce randomness. Just allow each player to pick which trait there warlord has, have it listed on there army list beside there warlord, this gives everyone a bit more customization and eliminates the need for every player to have to roll before the game starts, there will be a lot of pre game rolling for psychic powers as it is without adding warlord traits to the mix.

I'm in favor of skipping warlord traits altogether this year, we've got enough army bonuses via Assets and data sheets without adding another thing to worry about.

Is any individual really that big on this type of battle field. hmm, if we do want them, I'd say you only get one per table per side, the title warlord can't go to everyone.........

[Grand Master Steve]

I personaly dont care about the warlord stuff

[Chase]

Command Traits
1. Inspiring Presence: Allowed
2. Intimidating Presence: Banned
3. The Dust of a Thousand Worlds: Allowed
4. Master of the Vanguard: Allowed
5. Target Priority: Allowed
6. Coordinated Assault: Allowed

Personal Traits
1. Master of Defense: Allowed
2. Master of Offense: Allowed
3. Master of Manoeuvre: Allowed
4. Legendary Fighter: Banned
5. Tenacity: Allowed
6. Immovable Object: Allowed, may not be chosen for a super heavy or gargantuan creature.

Strategic Traits: Banned