The NEXT tournament???

[Chase]

Quick question:  As you guys can probably tell I play a lot of Blood Angels, I have a ThunderFire Cannon but its not listed in the Codex but it is in the Codex: Space Marines am I still allowed to use it for my army as long as I use the appropriate Codex?

Only if you want to be playing them as vanilla space marines. 

Correct.

[BloodAngel155]

What the hell is a Vanilla Space Marine

[Sir_Prometheus]

The main space marine codex, as opposed to Black Templars, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, etc. 

[BloodAngel155]

Oh now I have been schooled lol

[Benjamin]

FOC will be a healthy debate, for sure.

[King of the Elves]

The main space marine codex, as opposed to Black Templars, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, etc. 

 Lol i thought they where space marines painted like vanilla ice cream 

[Mike_k]

Honestly I think removing the standard 1hq 2 troops and maybe focusing on a robust hero hammer type event may be fun.

Like if Draigo and Draigo collide the universe may explode, Matt Ward will beat Mitt Romney and there will be peace in the middle east. Imagine the wonderful implications our little event will spawn.

RAINBOWS! RAINBOWS! RAINBOWS!

[Loranus]

<--- Tabled 2 opponents in the Last 500 Tournament with Vanilla Space Marines so doesn't want to hear people complain.

I think you should be required to fill out the FOC as per normal 1 HQ 2 troops. Splitting the FOC between 2 people at 500 points should not be a problem for anyone unless your planning on just trying to spam something ridiculous. Orkz still going to have a clear advantage in this department anyways .

I may Change up from what I did last time try something different few new ideas kicking around in my head.

[NateT]

That's cool, my I ask what you 500pt list you used?  I guess the issue I have is actually that I need to buy two Razorbacks...

on topic, how does a combined FOC work?  Is it literally only one HQ and two troops need be on the table?  Or does each player need at least an HQ and one troop?

[Loranus]

(Each player must take)
1 HQ
0-1 Elites
2-3 Troops
0-1 Fast Attack
0-1 Heavy Support

And then you had a Floating choice in Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support. Which means you or your team mate could have 2 Elites in but not both of you.

500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster

Total Roster Cost: 500

HQ: Space Marine Captain in Power Armour (1#, 165 pts)
1 Space Marine Captain in Power Armour, 165 pts = (base cost 100) + Space Marine Bike 35 + Relic Blade x1 30

Troops: Space Marine Bike Squad (5#, 165 pts)
3 Space Marine Bike Squad, 85 pts = 3 * 25 (base cost 25) + Meltagun x1 10
   1 Attack Bike, 40 pts
   1 Sergeant, 40 pts

Troops: Space Marine Bike Squad (5#, 170 pts)
3 Space Marine Bike Squad, 80 pts = 3 * 25 (base cost 25) + Flamer x1 5
   1 Attack Bike, 50 pts = (base cost 40) + Multi-melta 10
   1 Sergeant, 40 pts

[NateT]

Ah, cool... as someone who has never played bikes, I didn't even realize you could do that with the capt on bike.  I like that alot!   And it's got character, too, like a Hell's Angels chapter.  As an aside, do those bikes also take a fast attack slot?  I know when Dark Angels do that with Samael, they are both troop and fast attack, right?  How does it read in the SM codex?

Just might be important under a joint FOC... and my codex is at home.  Not that I would ever sit at work thinking about 500 pt lists... no, never 

[andalucien]

Hmm, I hope we do not have to fit 2 troops and 1 hq into our 500 pt lists.   My plan was to start up a Sisters army.   Having 2 sisters squads in rhinos and any HQ leaves not enough room for any other units.
 

[Bill]

Two troops and an HQ worked great in the singles but I think I agree. For the doubles a mandatory one troop and one HQ would work best.

[King of the Elves]

Heres one of my lists
 IG Codex

  HQ: Commissar Yarrick- 185 points
 
  Troop: Veteran Squad with 1 flamer- 75 points
  Troop: Penal Legion Squad- 80 points

  Heavy Support: Deathstrike Missle Launcher with flamer- 160 points

    Total: 500 points

 List 2:
     
       Codex: Space Marines

    HQ: Kor'sarro Khan + Moondrakkan- 205 points

    Troop 1: 5 Man Bike Squad- 140 points
    Troop 2: 4 Man bike squad + Attack Bike- 155 points


    Total- 500 points


What list do you guys like more? The second one is white scars by the way.

[andalucien]

LOL!  Deathstrike missile launcher!  Love it!