Tale of X Gamers Abington

[Achillius]

I went back through a number of posts but couldn't find this info handy we decided the first 1,000 points after 2 months.  But do we have to have one HQ and two troops in the first 500?

I find that nigh undoable (Waiting on some vets from FW)
I can do a single HW and troop for the first 500 and be up to normal by 1000 points. (that'll still be 30 something models).

Thoughts?
Cheers,
Alan

[Grand Master Steve]

I was under the assumption we would be using standard force org. who else can not adhere to standard force org at 500 pts this needs to get resolved quick as we are now starting

[JaredB]

I would also be better off if the chart didn't kick in till 1000

[xxxMIDIANxxx]

I made my 500pt list with the standard FOC. Specifically, I have 1 Librarian as my HQ, 1 Tactical Squad and 1 Scout squad. But if too many players won't be able swing it, it's fine with me if it goes by the old FOC that I found on the DakkaDakka forums :


At 500 pts:
0-1 HQ
1+ Troops
0-3 Special

Just let me know because if we don't need to take a HQ, I'm going to swap it out for a HW

[the_trooper]

I'm confused at the inability to start under 500 with normal FOC.

Since it's a slow grow league, just section off the army to support it.

My Renegade list is looking like this:

Company Command Squad

24+ worker rabble with enforcer and priest

2 x armored fist squads.

The army sucks at this point level. 

If you've got marines, run 5 man squads if you don't have the points.  Guard are easy to get a 500 point list together, regardless of quality.

We would all be better off if I just ran a hydra, two leman russes and a squad of alpha legion.

[Rurouni Benshin]

I agree with Rich.  Granted a 500 Point list isn't going to be a very coherent or competitive list, but we're all working on the same scales here.  Everyone's got the same advantages and disadvantages. 

Here's my 500 point list:

Captain Lysander 200 Points

10 man Tactical Squad, Meltagun, Lascannon 185 Points

5 man Tactical Squad, Sgt with Power Fist 115 Points

Again, not the best list, but at 500 Points, how much more can one expect?

[jfoodmaster]

I'm confused at the inability to start under 500 with normal FOC.

Since it's a slow grow league, just section off the army to support it.

My Renegade list is looking like this:

Company Command Squad

24+ worker rabble with enforcer and priest

2 x armored fist squads.

The army sucks at this point level. 

If you've got marines, run 5 man squads if you don't have the points.  Guard are easy to get a 500 point list together, regardless of quality.

We would all be better off if I just ran a hydra, two leman russes and a squad of alpha legion.

I would have also started differently if we didn't have to stick to FOC. My 500 list is terrible, but maybe it'll get good someday:
Company Command squad
-banner
-3x grenade launcher
-power fist

Platoon Command squad
-3x Plasma
-powerfist
Infantry squad
-Commissar
--power weapon
-flamer
-power weapon
-vox caster
Infantry squad
-flamer
-power weapon

Vet squad
-3x meltagun
-grenadiers

[Benjamin]

As only an interested observer, I'd be somewhat lenient with the first 500 points, let people paint whatever 500 points they want to get them started and encouraged. After that though, the FOC hammer definitely should be dropped.

[JaredB]

Were all starting on the same scale but not the same budget. I had non hq models and right now I don't have the money to buy any but will before we hit 1000

[Grand Master Steve]

Ok in light that not every one can comply with stanard force org. I am ruling that standard force org is reduced to 1 HQ and 1 Toop. I ask that this ruling is not to be abused by taking units past a second troop choice.

IE: I take a Wolfgaurd battle leader(HQ) 1 pack of Grey Hunters(troop) and 1 pack of Long Fangs(Heavy Support). this example is a big NO.

The ruling is for those who have armies that CAN NOT comply with standard force ORG and can only get by with just 1 troop choice and 1 HQ.

This is my ruling. ::bangs gavel::

[the_trooper]

Yeah, the idea of a casual league is a structure and a chill, non-WAAC approach.  Think of it as the anti tournament in a lot of ways.

Also, a space marine captain starts off as just a dude in power armor.  Just sayin'.

[xxxMIDIANxxx]

Ok, so no HW in round 1? But 1 HQ + 2 troop choices is still fine? Just making sure I have it clear.

[Rurouni Benshin]

Ok, so no HW in round 1? But 1 HQ + 2 troop choices is still fine? Just making sure I have it clear.

1 HQ and 2 Troops will ALWAYS be fine, since it's the minimum for any regular list.  The idea that Steve is trying to get across is that you shouldn't take advantage of the new rule, of 1 HQ and 1 Troop minimum, and add something that would be more OP in such a small game (just as he cited in his example with the Long Fangs).

[xxxMIDIANxxx]

I figured that was the case. Just wanted to confirm. Looking forward to this! Also, Steve I read in an earlier post you said something about meeting at Battleground on 1/6 to go over things? What time?

[Chase]

I think a meeting to kick things off probably isn't the worst idea in the world.