As far as store events go, I'd much rather a standard tournament. But that's just my two cents.
I view a tournament and a league as apples and oranges. /shrug
To me the default limit of 2000 probably scared off a few people who were newer to the game.
It definitely did, which is unfortunate because it shouldn't have. 2000 points were not required. I could have let people know this, and a bazillion other things if I were there on Thursdays.
the problem in with is see this outcome was from the wrong type of hype, and the hype that was giving might have not hit a home run with the newer players.What i mean is When i played in the League in Abington a little over a year ago there was people telling me how great it was going to be and how much fun i could have and it wasn't serious, becuase of this.
This is probably right. I feel like if I were there on Thursdays to create buzz and to hype it, it would have done much better.
I would have done it had I had 2000 points and a proper competitive list at that.
A perfect example of an opinion a quick convo could have changed. Leagues are fun, casual, and targeted towards everyone.
Some of the blame should be put on me for being so out of touch with the fact that a fair number of players can't field 2000 points.
ya i think Abington's was more worked out in store than online i could be wrong but i thought that was the way it went. also i think there was more planning and pressuring time before so to speak that got everything running.
Some of Seth's points were covered in the posting. What he says here is right though. In Abington I set the league up on a night I was there, I knew the 40k players very well, some "movers and shakers" were behind it and helping me promote it. Really, it boils down to not having me there to hype and answer questions. That's extremely frustrating for me.
I would have done it had I had 2000 points and a proper competitive list at that. I love the idea of campaigns!
This is pretty much my reason. If I had 2000 points worth of stuff to run with and Thursday nights free, I'd have been all over that. Maybe in the near future I'll be able to join in.
But you didn't need 2000 points or to be there on Thursdays.
Again, something I could have easily let people know if others did not.
I was signed up for it, wished it had gone off, hopefully we can try again in a couple months or something.
as for what went wrong...
cause: Seems like it was bad timing, a few regulars had other responsibilities
fix: hopefully the next time it is scheduled people will have open schedules
cause: Others DID want in but couldn't swing the 2k points
fix: i think this would of fixed itself, 2k was just the "default" i personally and i"m sure others in the campaign woul of gone down to 1500 or ever 1000 if the thats all the opponent could swing
cause: hype? it was presented with plenty of notice on the website but not so much in the store
fix: next time have the map and some fluff posted in the store weeks in advance, make an announcement every Thursday during normal 40k to get interest from those who maybe don't follow the forums.
cause: "couldn't make every Thursday for league night"
fix: i don't see how this is a problem, hell i was signed up and knew there were several thusdays i wouldn't be able to make because i was goign to be on duty. the fix is ALREADY in the rules, if your not going to be there letthe store know ahead of time and your move will be done for you, BAM.
-Jason
This.
I think the biggest problem was that the campaign lacked a clear organizer to rally people and stoke interest. Someone spearheading the campaign would do two things:
1. Make sure that people know what is going on and be a source for questions. It sounds like people didn't realize that it wasn't neccessary to be there on Thursdays and that you don't need to have 2000 points. That could have been found out reading through a giant post, or it could have been found out by having someone ask 'hey, are you playing in the campaign?' and responding 'I don't know, I don't really have 2000 points of stuff' and hearing 'oh, that's totally no problem'.
2. Inspire confidence in the campaign. I know I almost didn't sign up because I've run a campaign before, and I know it takes a ton of work to make sure everything is running smoothly. And I still have no idea who was supposed to be running this. Which made me think that it would probably fall apart. If I wasn't there every Thursday night anyway, I wouldn't have made a special trip for just that reason. Knowing that someone is in charge would make me think that it is more likely to be an enjoyable experience.
All of this would have been a non-issue if I were there every Thursday. It's a shame it wasn't clear or the case without me there.
Overall it's extremely disappointing.