Annual Megabattle Rules Questions

[jesterofthedark]

well the question rich proposed was always reguarding his own army.  If was just questioning if his deamons could use his marines icon.

[Achillius]

well the question rich proposed was always reguarding his own army.  If was just questioning if his deamons could use his marines icon.

Nothing wrong with being complete in ones answers. There will be, I'm sure, plenty of Icons out there.

Cheers,

[the_trooper]

Seeing as Order seems down with it, the official ruling on icons / teleport homers is?

[Rob S]

Seeing as Order seems down with it, the official ruling on icons / teleport homers is?

I see no problem with them being used inside your own force (chaos - demons, SM - Grey Knights for example) but not between two teammates.

[the_trooper]

Seeing as Order seems down with it, the official ruling on icons / teleport homers is?

I see no problem with them being used inside your own force (chaos - demons, SM - Grey Knights for example) but not between two teammates.

Exactly.   Looking in Derek's direction...

[Chase]

This came up the other day (Saturday maybe?) at the store when a player called and asked me about it.  The concensus was that you can use "it" within your own list, but two teammates cannot share.

I'm not sure who was around, but they had said it was something that had been discussed earlier that day and that a conculsion had been reached.

If for no other reason than that I told one of the players over the phone that he wouldn't be able to use someone elses icons, let go with that.

Cool?

[cryptoron]

Sorry it's late, need to clarify, only four shots, I just modeld four guns to show the four shots.

[the_trooper]

Thanks Chase and thanks Ron.

Order players, what do you think about Ron's datasheet?

[the_trooper]

Archetypes! 

Can we over-rule this rule?

I mean it sounds pretty RAD to face 15 Marneus Calgars on the table and a squad of Pedro Cantors but it seems like it would be best if we limited special characters like last year even if the codex says they are not unique.

[Achillius]

Archetypes! 

Can we over-rule this rule?

I mean it sounds pretty RAD to face 15 Marneus Calgars on the table and a squad of Pedro Cantors but it seems like it would be best if we limited special characters like last year even if the codex says they are not unique.

I'm not sure we can. I agree that Yarrick can only turn up once, or even MR. Macharius. But Codex space Marines allows the use of arch-types for a reason. I would say that there's no way you should have more than one type per Army, that'll get rid of your "Squad of Pedro Cantors" concern.

Cheers,
Alan

[Logan007]

I don't really see a compelling reason why space marines should be allowed to field multiple instances of a "special" character. If it's in order to change the chapter tactics, then let the player just declare that they're going to replace that rule with whatever character grants it.

Otherwise, I really don't see the difference between 5 people each fielding Marneus Calgar vs. 5 people each fielding Abaddon.

Mike D.

[Lykosan]

What I believe Rich was getting at is that there are currently 5 Vanilla Marine (not counting the specialized chapters) players signed up that have access to the Archetypes. That means there is a potential to have 5 Calgars, Cantors, Tigirus and so on just named differently ie. Marneus Calgar II for each Marine army. So in essence there still could be a 'squad of Pedro Cantors' and possibly one squad of each named character.

[the_trooper]

Ok, why not have a whole bunch o' kharnes?

See, the issue is here:  They say they are Arche-types so The green marines can field a tigerious.

Spirit of the rule time- Kharne the Betrayer is marked as Unique.  You can only use one per army. Last year, only one person could bring Kharne as per the house rule. 

Using the Archetypes rule, you can field Marneus Calgar and still try to be fluffy in a yellow space marine army.  Just call him Carneus Malgar.

So, why not limit characters just like last year.  Only one person can field each character. 

[Logan007]

I agree. Especially since many of the space marine special characters are just as powerful as the chaos/ork/daemon/etc. special characters.

[Achillius]

of course the real point is that the rules let you do this, and they do it in a way to establish an Armies identity. Other Armies, mine included are not so lucky.


So what you are proposing is a single instance of each archtype be allowed, and marine players can however select the army type by simply stating so and not buying the character.

Is that correct?