500 Points about 500 Points (Lists, Touraments & Rules, oh my!)

[canadianone]

bit me  JK

[Thefallen]

I would prefer the adepticon style.
500pt
1xHQ
1x troop
The armies will be a lot more fun.
If we are playin for fun? Less rules = more fun.

[canadianone]

yeah, but then people will start to just bring lists that are just over the top unbalanced. I think otherwise the lists are just not going to be fun because they are going to be rocks paper scissors and full of gimmicks.   

[steelforge]

Alright. From here on out, it's a blank slate.

So here's what I had in mind. It's small, quite informal. Just something a bit different for an average night out.

A Thursday in December
Plainville store
Start time - 7 PM
8 Players, first come, first serve
$5 entry fee, all prizes store credit
Winner - $20
Runner up - $10
Third - $5
Fourth - $5
And of course, something special for Smokin' Boots.

Scenarios: I'll choose three of the 2011 Adepticon Combat Patrol missions (here and here).

Rounds: 50 minutes.

My only question is the rule set players might like to use.

There's our simple 500 point rule, of 1 HQ, 2 Troops and anything legal goes. Then there's the General Rules set out by Adepticon in the beginning of the packet, but 500 points instead of 400. Whichever people want is fine with me.

I can probably coax Sam to hang around as a judge. Throw some Slim Jims at him.

This is completely brilliant!, what a marvelous idea!  Pure genius!  I would happily play in this!
=Gundam John

[Benjamin]

This is completely brilliant!, what a marvelous idea!  Pure genius!  I would happily play in this!=Gundam John

It's something I wanted to do since we came up with the other tournament, and word on the grapevine was some other genius had the same idea as well. Great minds, thinking alike.

[Benjamin]

Can't sleep, so I broke down the 500 tournament results out of curiosity. Pretty much what I expected, especially with Daemons being the wild card. Sorted by average Victory Points scored, which happens to closely correlate with win %.



Really interesting to note, no power armor codex cracked the top half!

[Bill]

That is very interesting. Incredible how the field changes under 1k.

[Benjamin]

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Fear my threadromancy!

I like having all this stuff in one thread, helps me stay organized. I'll be posting ideas up for the 500 Doubles for consideration here.

I have two new deployments, one of which is great for everyone, and another I think has merit but people will hate. My first order of business is to get those posted up soon-ish.

[Chase]

We have time.  April is one of two "off" months for 40k this year.

[Benjamin]

We have time.  April is one of two "off" months for 40k this year.

Such optimism! Sure a couple scenarios are going to simply be updated or outright recycled, but there must be dazzling, shiny new things. Plus, there are a couple topics that need to discussed and thought out. All in good time. Namely, after this Saturday.

Time wouldn't be a concern, if only I had as much as I did for the first event.

[steelforge]

Just because you can run 5 matches doesn't mean you need to.

Take a page out of Warmahordes, short fast dynamic events.

40K doesn't need to be a marathon, low points negates the need for an endurance game.
You can have just as much fun, if not more, playing for 5 hours as you can for 7.

Also, keep the 1 HQ, 2 Troops + Whatever you can shoe horn into 500 points.  It'll cut down on unbalanced.
-Gundam John

[Tharcil]

Examples of what could be unbalanced with the 1 HQ and 1 Troop please? No opinion either way, but just curious what the concerns are with this.  My concern at 500 points with 1 HQ and 2 Troops is boring armies.  Just use marines as a base line, with the cheapest selections.

Librarian 100
Scout Squad (5 man)
Scout Squad (5 man)

That's exactly half the points with no upgrades for what is required.  How unbalanced can you really get with the other 250 points?  Also considering games that have objectives, if some one chooses to only take 1 each they're dealing with their own issues with hold the markers anyway.  Seems like it balances it self and would would allow for much more diversity in the lists.

[andalucien]

If you have 2 teams that each require 1HQ and 1 troop, and max out on 1 each of the other FOC slots, when you add that together, you have a 1000pt army that requires 2 HQ and 2 troops, and has a max of 2 of each other FOC.   That is MUCH more restrictive than a normal singles army list would be.  Unless the point is to make it so that no one can bring anything other than regular ole squads, requiring 4 troops in a 1000pt force is kind of draconian.

It also gives a huge advantage in fun to those armies that can bring really cheap troop choices, such as grey knight henchmen armies and dark eldar.

[Sir_Prometheus]

So, I DON'T want to run a Coteaz/henchmen list.......but I will if you make me. 

Honestly, 1 troop is plenty restrictive for most lists, I don't think you'll see anything all that crazy.

Once again, I brought 2 Hammerheads in under 500 pts, WITH the 2 troops.  How much worse do you think it can be than that? 

[Chase]

It is VERY likely that we go with a 1 HQ, 1 Troop requirement.