[Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 2000pt Singles Tournament - 7/23/2011

[Rurouni Benshin]

We have expanded the 40k singles tournament to accommodate 42 players.

Oh, you can't leave us hanging! How are you pulling this off?

I'm intrigued as well... 

[Loranus]

Im Intrigued as well did you rent one of the buildings next door for the day?

[Dissimulation]

Playing on the ceiling, Obviously.

[Loranus]

Pfft, of Course should have that of that just let me hook up my Gravitron boots to climb up their tables are metal right for the magnets?

[Chase]

Different config + squeezing a little tighter = 21 tables.


We are going going to run three columns of 7 tables end to end down the store.

It should be fine.  If it's a little uncomfortable we won't ever do it again, but something tells me it won't be too bad.

It won't feel any tighter than a doubles tourn.

[Grimwulfe]

Good news Chase if you need help setting up my crew and I will make themselves available.

[Torvald]

Given my phobia could I trouble you guys to make my matches at the end near the window as I had a hard time even at 32.

Thanks

[Chase]

Given my phobia could I trouble you guys to make my matches at the end near the window as I had a hard time even at 32.

Thanks

I've already considered this on your behalf, Vance.  Have no worries, you'll be taken care of. 

[Chase]

Good news Chase if you need help setting up my crew and I will make themselves available.

Thanks, Troy.  We should have everything under control but if I need some help I'll definitely give you guys a shout. 

[Mike_k]

Good news Chase if you need help setting up my crew and I will make themselves available.

Thanks, Troy.  We should have everything under control but if I need some help I'll definitely give you guys a shout. 

Troy lies we are all jerks in his crew we wouldn't help! In all seriousness this is exciting a massive event borderline insanity will ensue!

[Benjamin]

Talked about this potential issue at the store last night, and I didn't have an answer...

Opening the field to 42 is already done, but when based primarily on wins and losses:
Round 1 will see 21 undefeated players.
Round 2 will see 10-11 undefeated players.
Round 3 will see 5-6 undefeated players.

If there are multiple players who table all three opponents for max points (which is likely given the talent), how would the winner be determined in that case?

[Bill]

 
One of the big changes that you will not see in the nova packet is that for this tourney points were assigned to all 3 objectives like we would for any normal bg tourney.

• Primary Goals in each mission will be worth 15 points for a win, 8 points for a draw, and 0 points for a loss.
• Secondary Goals in each mission will be worth 7 points for a win, 3 points for a draw, and 0 points for a loss.
• Tertiary Goals in each mission will be worth 5 points for a win, 2 points for a draw, and 0 points for a loss.

This is in an effort to have a clear winner after 3 rounds.
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[Grimwulfe]

Which I have to say is clearly printed in the tourny announcement!

[Chase]

Whereas I think the chances for something like you present are very, very, very, very slim, Ben, there are ways we can easily break the ties.

How I would handle it is very similar to the way it gets handled by the DCI (the organization who is responsible of scoring all Magic: The Gathering events) and Privateer Press.  I would simply compare the strength of schedules between the winning players and award prizes based on that.

Obviously I would explain the situation to the players with a maximum score beforehand though, and would certainly offer them the option to split the prizes evenly.


What tends to happen at the top tables in round 3 is that the players draw or one eeks out a minor victory.

I could be wrong, but I think it is EXTREMELY unlikely that multiple people score max points for every goal in every game.


It is important to note that what you've presented reflects a situation where half the field wins in the grandest of fashions every round.  This will not be the case.

[Benjamin]

I believe a draw with the RAW is possible. Two players table three opponents, and each game plays on such that those players score max points.

Strength of schedule could produce a tie-breaker, yet I'd also like to offer as a tie-breaker the winner being the player with the fewest Victory Points lost over the course of the day. It's like a measure of efficiency, and has a solid identifiable number.

The idea, take it, leave it, it's there. I'd prefer to look the fool now and have a clear solution ready, rather than not say anything at all and have the store seemingly make up something at the last minute. (*I* know the store doesn't roll like that, but there's lots of people from all over coming to these tourneys.)