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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #270 on: March 30, 2011, 12:45:53 AM »
tye-dye...... and I'm supposed to be serious.  You give me tye-dye marines....

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #271 on: March 30, 2011, 03:05:18 AM »
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #272 on: March 30, 2011, 09:54:24 AM »
Possible weapon idea: The Nova Weapon System

Basically a plasma cannon on a terminator. The model itself is easy enough.
Game play; Basic termie with a plasma cannon with slightly weaker stats. It'd follow all the rules for regular plasma weapons.

Advantages: More powerful heavy weapon that can move and shoot.
Disadvantages: point cost per model.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #273 on: March 30, 2011, 10:43:48 AM »
Possible weapon idea: The Nova Weapon System

Basically a plasma cannon on a terminator. The model itself is easy enough.
Game play; Basic termie with a plasma cannon with slightly weaker stats. It'd follow all the rules for regular plasma weapons.

Advantages: More powerful heavy weapon that can move and shoot.
Disadvantages: point cost per model.

ideas?

~Doug
I like it.  Personally, I've wondered why Terminators don't get more access to more Heavy Weapon options.  With the right point costs, I think it can be a very balanced ability.  Plus, I think more people would be tempted to take non-Assault Terminators more often. 
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #274 on: March 30, 2011, 11:50:11 AM »
See deathwatch. Terminatour armour can NOT utilize plasma weaponry because if it overhears it compromises the entire structure of the armour. That's why chaos terminators use combi plasma and hold most stuff in their hands. Heavy weapons are attatched to the armour itself.
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #275 on: March 30, 2011, 12:01:20 PM »
See deathwatch. Terminatour armour can NOT utilize plasma weaponry because if it overhears it compromises the entire structure of the armour. That's why chaos terminators use combi plasma and hold most stuff in their hands. Heavy weapons are attatched to the armour itself.

I have to go with Goss on this one.  That is why Termies cannot use other heavy weapons as well and the only ones that they can use (cyclone missile, assault cannon) do not need to integrated into the armor, rather they need to only be mounted.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #276 on: March 30, 2011, 12:18:00 PM »
See deathwatch. Terminatour armour can NOT utilize plasma weaponry because if it overhears it compromises the entire structure of the armour. That's why chaos terminators use combi plasma and hold most stuff in their hands. Heavy weapons are attatched to the armour itself.

I have to go with Goss on this one.  That is why Termies cannot use other heavy weapons as well and the only ones that they can use (cyclone missile, assault cannon) do not need to integrated into the armor, rather they need to only be mounted.
I suppose that answers why Plasma weapons can't be used, but what about other energy weapons?  I don't know what the fluff behind Deathwatch is, but is it clear why other energy type weapons aren't used?
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #277 on: March 30, 2011, 12:44:02 PM »
Mainly because energy weapons need a energy source.  To comprimise the integrity of Terminator armor to house a energy source is basically taking away what the terminator armor was designed for.  Plus to house the energy source you are then taking away from the functionality of the suit.

Reasons for this are power armor marines keep the oversized powersourc on there backs.  This is not an option for the already oversized terminator.
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #278 on: March 30, 2011, 01:04:47 PM »
Mainly because energy weapons need a energy source.  To comprimise the integrity of Terminator armor to house a energy source is basically taking away what the terminator armor was designed for.  Plus to house the energy source you are then taking away from the functionality of the suit.

Reasons for this are power armor marines keep the oversized powersourc on there backs.  This is not an option for the already oversized terminator.

I sort of expect there to be game balance and/or fluff reasons, good or bad, for anything written in any GW codex.  If someone has built or wants to build a cool big model, I think it well that this thread exists.  I'm not sure we want to be fine tuning and nitpicking standard codex stuff, though?

Don't feel strongly about it.  I'm not going to throw a tantrum.  I'm just not sure how much we want to try to trade off "The fluff says" against "I could build this cool model" or "gee, I could kick butt if only I could..."  The fluffy player, modeler and war gamers just have different priorities.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #279 on: March 30, 2011, 04:49:33 PM »
Define "other energy weapons".  If you mean a lascannon, multimelta, or heavy flamer; well, a heavy flamer attatchment is capable on terminator armour, but its frowned upon because of chaos champions using them and the such.  The lascannon and multi-melta is because (like troy said) tactical dreadnought armour has no room to put an energy source in to power them, since they don't have back packs.  Terminator armour, following the codex astartes, utilizes heavy immpact/ballistic weaponry.

Now back to my awesome idea for the "ego marine" There is no fluff saying there isn't a space marine character with tons of charisma and mojo about him.  Its not like people will have a hard time killing him, a large blast does the job pretty well.
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #280 on: March 30, 2011, 06:26:47 PM »
Now back to my awesome idea for the "ego marine" There is no fluff saying there isn't a space marine character with tons of charisma and mojo about him.
Dude, that's because fluff wise, every Space Marine thinks he's got tons of Charisma and Mojo about him...  :P
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #281 on: March 30, 2011, 06:30:47 PM »
Doom Kitty by cryptoron, on Flickr

My submission.
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #282 on: March 30, 2011, 06:33:20 PM »
Doom Kitty by cryptoron, on Flickr

My submission.

Now my Idea totally sucks...  :-[
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #284 on: March 30, 2011, 06:44:13 PM »
Now back to my awesome idea for the "ego marine" There is no fluff saying there isn't a space marine character with tons of charisma and mojo about him.
Dude, that's because fluff wise, every Space Marine thinks he's got tons of Charisma and Mojo about him...  :P

False.  Space Marines have zero charisma and have no mojo, they rely on the emperor for such things.
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