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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2010, 03:25:56 PM »

As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle.  I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.


I believe chase said Primarchs are not a good idea and most of us dont want to use them.

You need to learn to read better my friend.  Chase did not say they are bad idea but that a bunch of people dont think they should be involved. 


Aside from that I can see the argument for both sides.  And Dave has another point that I like and trust me pople this is making me sick to my stomach, lol.  Time rifts and so on are a great way to explain it.  Also for the arguments that this isnt the wolftime and why would he show up?  Well who says the megabattle isnt in the warp also it states that Leman will return home during the end of days for the wolftime.  No table that I have seen for the megabatte looks anyhting like Fenris so that point it mute.

On the other side Im not going to fight anyone over use of primarchs just thought it would be a great addition to the megabattle if done properly and the models fit. 
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #91 on: December 22, 2010, 06:44:25 PM »
i think that if anyone wants to bring a model that has no official stats/rules, he should do what mirrorlord did and post a link to the model in questions thread here, and then people can scrutinize it until it is approvable.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #92 on: December 22, 2010, 09:56:02 PM »
My bad. While I'm finishing up my black legion, according to my books, there is 13 eldar in the black legion. Can I use them as eldar or chosen models? Since I am trying to have some of everything the black legion has. Except abbadon who I gave up fighting over already.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #93 on: December 23, 2010, 01:36:19 AM »
in wat book did it say the black legion has eldar ??? ??? ??? ???
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #94 on: December 23, 2010, 02:09:26 AM »
My bad. While I'm finishing up my black legion, according to my books, there is 13 eldar in the black legion. Can I use them as eldar or chosen models? Since I am trying to have some of everything the black legion has. Except abbadon who I gave up fighting over already.

Order sticks with Order.  Disorder sticks with Disorder.  The only exception is traitor Guard and they must clearly be modeled as such.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #95 on: December 23, 2010, 12:21:17 PM »
That's wiggidy whack!

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #96 on: December 23, 2010, 12:42:27 PM »
As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle.  I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.

The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus.  They have been dead or missing for centuries.  While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.

Count me as among those who doesn't like the idea fluff wise.  I'd also prefer to minimize the amount of funky rules being used.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #97 on: December 23, 2010, 03:42:06 PM »
The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus.  They have been dead or missing for centuries.  While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.


I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew.  I have little issues suspending disbelief.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #98 on: December 23, 2010, 11:47:03 PM »
The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus.  They have been dead or missing for centuries.  While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.


I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew.  I have little issues suspending disbelief.
i second that
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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #99 on: December 23, 2010, 11:57:15 PM »
The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus.  They have been dead or missing for centuries.  While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.


I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew.  I have little issues suspending disbelief.
lol

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #100 on: December 24, 2010, 12:25:09 AM »
The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus.  They have been dead or missing for centuries.  While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.


I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew.  I have little issues suspending disbelief.

Different people play this hobby for different reasons.  They enjoy different things.  One aspect is modeling.  The game is the better for fully painted armies and well put together scratch builds.  Thus, we have rules about hamster ball and toilet tube models, and inspections to confirm that the modeling is worthy.

Primarchs in a modern era game?  From a fluff perspective, at least as I see it, this is roughly the equivalent of hamster ball and toilet tube. 

I care about all three elements, about the wargaming, the modeling, and the story line.  Not everyone is going to be equally good at all three, but it would be nice if we could at least try to respect each other's interests.

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #101 on: December 24, 2010, 12:57:16 AM »
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Against Primarchs

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #102 on: December 24, 2010, 02:40:35 AM »
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Against Primarchs

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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #103 on: December 24, 2010, 03:47:18 AM »
In all my time playing this game, I've seen some sights.   I've seen flesh tone daemonettes and female space marines.

End of times Primarchs would be welcome if faced with the contents of the prior sentence again.

Whats nice about the Primarchs is the idea that it seems to become community policed at this point.  I would like to see more scratch builds up here now.   What say you, modelers of the damned?


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Re: [Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread
« Reply #104 on: December 24, 2010, 10:49:20 AM »
In all my time playing this game, I've seen some sights.   I've seen flesh tone daemonettes and female space marines.

End of times Primarchs would be welcome if faced with the contents of the prior sentence again.

Whats nice about the Primarchs is the idea that it seems to become community policed at this point.  I would like to see more scratch builds up here now.   What say you, modelers of the damned?

What you haven't seen is my bringing those models to a Megabattle.

I'd like to see well done scratch builds.  I'm not thrilled with scratch built models that can't be trivially played 'counts as' with existing rules from the approved list.  I love custom modeling for custom modeling's sake, but distrust it when it is used as an excuse to bend or extend combat capability.  Someone who wants to build a badass model ought to get a chance to put it on the table.  Someone who sees a badass rule and builds the model to exploit the rule seems problematic.