[Megabattle] Custom Model / Datasheet / Idea Approval Thread

[Ian Mulligan]

Eldar Bob is the best backseat moderator I have ever seen. I think we should have him in charge of the megabattle.

[jesterofthedark]

Ian's got a really good point.

I'll bow to Blantyr expertise from this point on.


jester out....

[blantyr]

Deep breath.... Sigh....

Oh, the Megabattle....

Why do I do this to myself?

Not to worry.  Now that I'm in charge, things will be a lot smoother.

When can I get a copy of the table building schedule?   

OK.  The rest of you.  Bad ass model with no rules?  We can handle that.  Bad ass rules with no model?  Not so much.

[Achillius]

Not to worry.  Now that I'm in charge, things will be a lot smoother.

When can I get a copy of the table building schedule?   

OK.  The rest of you.  Bad ass model with no rules?  We can handle that.  Bad ass rules with no model?  Not so much.

Bob,
Please be quiet. You are irritating the natives regulars.


Thanks for understanding.

[skavengear]

So... according to blantyr, i can field any primarch i want, since there is a model for all of them. in fact i can field horus and sanguinus who are dead 

so... can i field horus? seriously. can I? im pretty sure he would just be abbadon with 1 better in all his stats, probablly have rage, fnp, and inferno bolts for his bolter.

[jfoodmaster]

I would say based on the logic, I could field my Citadel Leman Russ and the Freki and Geri wolves that are on my table. There are no GW Primarch models except that one (I think). He is only as tall as a 2nd edition Space Marine....not the massive, brutal monster that the fluff suggests. Heh. I don't think the Megabattle would pass as the 'Wolf Time' for Russ' return anyway.

[skavengear]

i think that if anyone wants to bring a model that has no official stats/rules, he should do what mirrorlord did and post a link to the model in questions thread here, and then people can scrutinize it until it is approvable.

if troy put alot of money and hard work into the leman russ model, then i believe it is only right that he fields it if he wants to. just as long as he leaves it to be fixed and made fair by people other than himself, since what one person finds harmless, another can find brutal.

isnt the whole point of this thread to make sure we DO see badass models come to this years megabattle and not some third grader's art project robot? sure youll get jackasses like me who post moot, but if someone wants to bring something cool, isnt that the true spirit of the megabattle? that would be like telling someone they couldnt believe in santa for xmas.

[Grand Master Steve]

On Titans: I think its obvious looking at Nick's titan at what angles the Weapons can fire from thus TLoS shouldnt be a problem for custom built monsters.

On Primarchs: I still dont see anything that settles me on allowing them short of Angron. My opinion is they should not be allowed except Anrgon. Until GW puts out official fluff for Primarchs and their stat line my vote is no to primarchs. Most of the Loyalist ones are dead or lost and I doubt they will "magicly appear" for one battle. I played in a game once when Lion El Johnson woke up to chase down Luther and it left a fowl taste in my mouth because niether of the charecters should be up walking around.

Thats all I can voice from reading what has been put up so far.

[deathwatch101]

ok gauss if u and troy can bring a primarch then my whole army gets to counts as custodians cause comeon how awesome and fair would that be wat paul and kevin are trying to do is not turn down awesome models but make sure noobs like me dont get put in front of ppl that hav the resources to put a 10 would str 10 int 10 model infront of me and tell me there going to win before first turn happens so wat happened to dan last year ( loosing most of his army in one turn) doent happen to anyone else so in other wrds just let paul and kevin do there jobs and stop the whineing about how  i spent my milk money to make this model look bad ass and i had a dream on its rules


btw i know i prob going to get flak for this post but how does that change for me so yea bring it on

[skavengear]

I dont care about or want to field a primarch, and its G-o-s-s.

I got a swell idea. if you want a primarch, make one from the codex. leman russ? just use a wolflord and deck him out with the goods leman would have. horus? just use abbadon and call him horus. This way people can field a primarch and nobody can bitch that it is a broken model.

on the tls issue. why couldnt a titan shoot at it's feet? I say if it misses a shot it hit its own foot. that can resolve both sides of the argument.

and as far as having a hard copy, the store has all of these books, if you can find $40 to play, you can find a nickel in the parking lot to copy your datasheet.

As to Mooney's chapter. If he plays on order, he should use the space marine codex, if he plays on chaos, he can use a thousand son army with the blood raven colors and take a few of the newer technologies. this will be balanced since we would be limiting him to one chaos god in exchange for the "better" stuff.

my two cents on the issues. the troll has spoken 

[Chase]

Let's all take a deep breath and chill for the holidays.

One way or another everything will work out.  People will get to do and bring awesome stuff.  Overall we're in a much better spot than we were coming into last year.  Let's grow from that point and not revisit too many old things that have been more or less worked out.

As far as I'm concerned Titan shooting has been worked out.

People taking things like the Disruptor Beacon will have to model it on a Demon Price sized base.

As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle.  I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.


So yeah.  Happy holidays.  I'm going to be eating a ton of pie.  What are you going to be doing (rhetorical)?

[Grimwulfe]

Actually Dave might have a good point.

For the primarchs --- Lets take Russ for an example.

Use Logan as a base - increase his stat line by 1 accross the board and allow 1 special item and Skill.  Increase his ponts by 100% and presto you have a not over the top and functional Primarch.

In this case Leman would look as such.

WS 7 BS 6 S 5 T 5 W 4 I 6 A 6 LD 10 SV 2+/3+

Special Item is Geri and Freki

WS 5 BS 0 S 5 T 6 W 2 I 5 A 4 LD 7 SV 3+

Special Skill - Insane Bravado

Point Cost - 550 pts.

Let me know what yall think.  I see this as being playable and fair and would like to see your thoughts.

[Moosifer]

Primarchs are a bad idea.  We are fighting in the 41st millenium not the 31st.  If we want to play with primarch we can do another battle with pre-heresy armies.

For play reasons, you are looking at giving a side that is more about mass of bodies than ridiculous stat lines a model that, if using Troy's stats, would be better than most daemon princes and be attended by two bloodcrushers.  As much as the special ICs from last year were cool, they were something that really made no sense for the game as a whole, and using a primarch would be the same except instead of being unnamed commander, they would have a well known name.

So has anyone actually come out with a data-sheet that would actually be practical and usable for our megabattle, or are we just all splooging on this discussion thread with our nerd wetdreams?

[skavengear]

Who is leman's heir in the space wolf codex? just give him two wolves, call them feri and gerki, then add 1 to his stats for like +100 points and call him leman russ.

Like for horus, take abbadon and add +1 to his stats and add +100 points.

IF primarchs were allowed this is how they should be handled unless they have a gw rule since at least then there is nobody making up rules like "when my model touches the table i win". Or maybe have a special table with a rift in time where primarchs and legends can show up and beat each other like the moon is the table for big titans to beat each other. Its not like troy and other people are asking to use Darth Maul 

Darth Maul
Chaos lord Stat line, mark of khonrne, daemon weapon. make my dreams come true for the holidays 

[Grand Master Steve]

As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle.  I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.

I believe chase said Primarchs are not a good idea and most of us dont want to use them.