[Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k Doubles Tournament: January 8th, 2011

[Chase]

I'm not sure if you're serious or not, Troy, but I'm going to have to say no to those Kans.

It would set a precedent that I don't want.

[jhobin]

NNNNoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All those wasted hours!!!

 

[Grimwulfe]

Chase,

As I respect your descision I would like the chance to try and change your mind.  Jeff and I spent hours making these very sharp looking Kans and I feel I must come to bat in its defense.

If it would help you change your mind we are willing to adjust our builds with hatches from rhinos so that they are at least 50% GW material.  This would take many more hours in production but we would be willing to compromise with you on this.

Ragnar,

18 Killa Kups is so legal please tell me the page you think this rule lands on as I am sure you have false information.

[Ragnar]

First off, Killa Kups is not a unit listed in the Ork codex. But please tell me the page you think this rule lands on as I am sure you have false information.

As far as Killa Kans are concerned, 3 heavy support choices per team at 3 Kans per squad equals 9. Do you still want the page number?

[Bill]

This is win. 

[Grimwulfe]

Ragnar,

You must be seriously out of touch with your codex if you do not know of the Killa Kup unit and and please pertaining to your ruling of these kill kans I definitly would like a page number.  I am concerned that you are such an avid Ork fan and you are having such trouble with your codex.

Chase,

I await your reassessment of Jeff and I's hard work.

Thank you,
Grim

[Torvald]

So,

Looks like Dave Goss' original partner can now play with 100% certainty so now I am out a partner...

I sent a message to someone asking if they needed one for the 2V2 but should they be all set I may be on the outside looking in if I can't find a partner which would be very disheartening. I signed up early for the 2V2 and would hate to miss it due to this.

Anyone willing to join a Dark Eldar in a bit of carnage?

[jesterofthedark]

hmm no 18 kanz sounds much....

but 9 kanz and 2 deffdreads is legal in this tourney.  I say grab a big gulp or two and convert away.

 

[Ragnar]

Thank the gods that we've got people like jester....

But for the benefit of others, direct quotations will suffice I suppose.

***note: all quotations refer to Codex: Orks, 4th Edition, unless otherwise noted in the following***

"USING A FORCE ORGANIZATION CHART
The army lists are used in conjunction with a force organisation [yes, the codex has a typo in it] chart from a scenario. Each chart is split into five categories that correspond to the sections in the army list, and each category has one or more boxes. Each box indicates that you may make one choice from that section of the army list, while a dark-toned box indicates a compulsory selection. We've included the chart used for Standard Missions [and, what do you know?!?! the chart for the upcoming tournament, derp] below" (page 94).


(Image adapted from page 94, immediately following above cited passage for the benefit of the reader) ***IP is property of Games Workshop in its entirety!!!***

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Also, rather than type out the unit entry, I assumed a copy of it would be more helpful


(Image taken from page 102) ***IP is property of Games Workshop in its entirety!!!***

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And, finally, if some players have somehow misconstrued the Big Mek rule titled' Da Big Mek', listed on page 97 of your Ork codices, if these players should have access to one, allows one Deff Dread to be taken as a Troops choice (as the learned jester has already accurately mentioned).



I think from now on I'll need your page numbers for special rules and army list questions.





Bibliography of sources utilized:
1. Kelly, Phil. Codex: Orks. 4th ed. Nottongham, UK: Games Workshop, 2008. Print.

[The_Chef]

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[Ragnar]

with the question of paper cup knock-offs of Killa Kans, are you seriously going after me for using a scanner to utilize labeled outside sources, cited properly? I'll load a friggin works cited addendum for you if your feelings have been hurt.

***The following is a quotation which is GW IP***

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[Ragnar]

Oh, and Mr. Chef,
In your direct copy of the GW Legal page of 'Do and Do not Do',
there are neither quote marks, nor are there abundantly clear statements that what you have posted is GW IP. Your only reference is at the bottom of the post, and, to the cursory reader, cannot be easily seen. In this regard and in accordance with GW legal, I have reported you to the proper authorities.

GW Legal has been notified.

[Chase]

Someone please remind me to give a small speech before I call out the round 1 pairings the day of the event.  Seriously, don't let me forget.

This is important.

Really, remind me.


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Oh yeah, and about the Killa Kups - After further review the 18x Killa Kup list has my full endorsement to be used in exhibition games up to and after the day of the event.

I appreciate the countless hours, blood, sweat, tears, souls, and sporks that have gone into creating the beasts but I can not approve them for this tournament.

Much love though, much love.  /gang symbol

[Captain Bryan!]

Someone please remind me to give a small speech before I call out the round 1 pairings the day of the event.  Seriously, don't let me forget.

This is important.

Really, remind me.

It's about me isn't it? 

[jesterofthedark]

Someone please remind me to give a small speech before I call out the round 1 pairings the day of the event.  Seriously, don't let me forget.

This is important.

Really, remind me.

It's about me isn't it? 

Are you kidding me, I thought one of teh killa kups was modeled after you.