warhammer 8th and..... historical!

[tcliff86]

Hey all,

I havent been able to try 8th edition of set up a game lately because I broke my ankle playing some basketball, but I have read the book (the rule section at least) and I cant wait to try it out, how are games going so far? Ive seen ppl setting up games on the forums so I figure there have been some games of it by now, so whats the general consensus? first impressions?

also, b/c Ive been laid up a bit I have been spending to much time on the internet and I have become very interested in some historical games.  So I was hoping to see if anyone is interested in trying out Warhammer Ancient battles with me?  I am going to ask battleground to order me a copy of the book and I figured we could throw down our fantasy figures and try out the ruleset.   but if no one wants to try it out I wont bother spending 50 bucks on a new rulebook.

so anyone fancy a game of warhammer without magic?

-Tim

p.s. - if you look at the warhammer historical site, they have some fun looking skirmish games based in the old west and a pirate version,  looks fun to me....

[JaredB]

I've been playing a lot of 8th and I like it. I've been wanting to try the old west game for a while.

[Rob S]

I know Nick Hough has been trying to get anyone he can to play Ancients.  He has a Roman force.  If I wasn't just here for the summer, I would also be playing.

[tcliff86]

Jared: I had a chance to read the old west game rules (Legend of the Old West by Warhammer Historicals) and I really like them, I would love to try it out.

Rob: is Nick on the forums?  What days is he around the store, if he doesn't mind Id like to talk to him about ancients.

thanks
-Tim

[Rob S]

Nick is "The Emperor" on the forums.  He is in on random days during the week (at least they seem random to me).

[Tim the Swift]

Hey Tim, sorry about your ankle, that's a tough situation. I have been playing 8th. edition and I like it a lot more than I thought I would. I like what they did with the rules and it makes the game a little better I think. Also, I am interested in historical but I don't know when I will get started with it. I would like to try ancients.

[tcliff86]

well, as long as someone is interested, then i am going to get the book,      we can experiment with the rules with our fantasy armies, and go from there

-Tim

[Rob S]

I still have my English Civil War book.  Haha.

[The Emperor]

I have the first edition of the Warhammer Ancients and it is the same as earlier variations of WFB without magic. Most armies are the same. It comes down to strategy. I know Warhammer Historical just came out with a new edition of WAB and I am thinking of picking it up. 

Does anyone have any interest in Black Powder by Warlord Games? Paul and I are starting armies for the American Revolution.

[Hierophant]

Does anyone have any interest in Black Powder by Warlord Games? Paul and I are starting armies for the American Revolution.

I bought the Blackpowder rules at TotalCon and played in a few BP games at Historicon this year, including a huge demo run by the authors of the ruleset and the Perry brothers (miniature figure sculptors...)

I would be VERY interested in getting on board with that.  What scale figs are you using?  The rules work equally well with 15mm (with appropriate adjustments) or 25mm/28mm.

I'd love to give the Ancients a try too.  Don't have anything put together for it of course, but if others are going to be playing...same with Legend of the Old West.

-Adrian

[The Emperor]

You played a game with the Perry brothers? That is pretty cool. We are doing American Revolution for Black Powder in 28mm. We seem to both use Perry brother miniatures exclusively.

[Hierophant]

Yeah it was very cool, very very nice guys both of them.

28 works; what forces are you guys working on?

[tcliff86]

how large a force are you guys playing black powder with?  I think i read somewhere that the game doesnt give army lists but instead relies on the players coming to an agreement or picking a historical accurate force,  is that right?

basically i'm curious whats the buy-in for a perry bros army.

-Tim

[Hierophant]

There aren't any army lists that's true.  There is a "kind of" points system in the back of the rule book, but you're right; in general the idea is that someone will design a scenario, either by researching some historical battle or coming up with a plausible "what if" including map and forces to be used.

The Perry figs are pricier than most I think, at least for the metal ones (They have plastic lines for ACW, Napoleonics and I think ECW that are relatively cheap).  I have some 28mm French Napoleonic figs from them and they are better than most, at least in my non-professional opinion.

[Hierophant]

Oh, and as for number of figures, a normal sized infantry unit will have 24-30 figs, a cavalry unit 12-16 ; if you use the guidelines in  the rule book.  An artillery unit is normally represented by just 1 gun with crew.

Army size can be as big as you want, but typical sized games seem to be anywhere from 2-5 brigades, with each brigade having 1-5 units in it.