Unbeatable Army List: Codex IG

[Ragnar]

Alright, there has been a bit of discussion and debate over the topics of broken armies, unbeatable units, and ridiculously unkillable army lists. Well, to settle that debate, I present to you Codex: Imperial Guard, 5th Edition. With a medley of units which, on their own are arguable unbeatable, Codex: Imperial Guard combines firepower to table any opponent (aside from reserve armies) turn 1 or turn 2 (reserve armies will be tabled 1-2 turns after all their stuff arrives )

so, what is this list? you may ask. well, it is 2,500 points, but is perfectly scalable to other points sizes if you keep the same flow through it. the list is undeniably unkillable, however, only at 2,500. no other army even has a chance. Oh, and yes, it costs a boatload of cash. With the recent price increase, i'd estimate around 800 dollars. To quote an earlier post: using GW's motto for a game system, yes money can buy you victory.

So, without further adieu, the list:



CCS, 4 Melta, Chimera, Hull HF 145
CCS, 4 Melta, Chimera, Hull HF 145
PBS , 4 Extra, Chimera, Hull HF 155
10 Vets, 3 Plasma, Chimera, Hull HF 170
PCS, 4 Flamers, Chimera, Hull HF 105
Infantry Squad, Autocannon, Flamer, Chimera, Hull HF 115
Infantry Squad, Autocannon, Flamer, Chimera, Hull HF 115
Autocannon HWT 75
Autocannon HWT 75
Autocannon HWT 75
2 Vendettas, HBs 280
2 Vendettas, HBs 280
2 Vendettas, HBs 280
Manticore 160
Manticore 160
Manticore 160

2495

anybody who'd even like to fancy this list at anything but unbeatable, here; join vassal. test play it right now! prove me wrong

(here's the link to testplaying 40k online. if i had 800 dollars to spend, what in sam-hell makes you think i would be spending it on GW products?)

http://www.miniwargaming.com/content/oXa5UrAGpfJG

[Ed]

i'd use
9 hydra's or a fast army like bikes get with in 24" the core will not fire
1 squad of melta vets? i'd run 3+
I trust meltas over str 10 and 9 any day.

[Ragnar]

Bikes? ok, you'd be under the manti range *if* you beat it to my lines. once you've done that, you have PBS to deal with, along with a ridiculous amount of firepower not including manticores. something like 7 heavy flamers, 4 flamers, 18 twin-linked lascannons, 12 twin linked heavy bolters, need i go on? if you manage to get first turn, and if i didn't deploy manticores out of range/sight of your hydras, you'd be getting those 18 TL lascannons on the battery right quick. your entire army will be immobile after the army's 1st shooting phase. any meltas u got.....completely useless after that.

[Ed]

ork bikes have a 4+ cover save
i have no tanks at all
autocannons dont auto kill me so i get fnp
you have to also think about your stuff my never come on the table its all about rolls
and if i live from that torrent it sounds like none of your tanks have moved cause they are not fast so id auto hit you in cc with pks

hydras have 72" range so the whole table so it will have to be sight

[skavengear]

its certainly a solid list, but not unbeatable, no army is unbeatable, for example ed's bikers, my death company and furioso librarian in a stormraven, khorne daemons, or even CSM with nurgles or khorne berserkers. what happens if something hits your frontline? 

[Ian Mulligan]

I remain unimpressed.

[Rurouni Benshin]

I just put the list together on Army Builder, and you're actually at 2505 points.  Your Infantry Squads with Autocannons and Flamers are actually 120 points each...

That aside, it does look like a competitive list.  I think the only area where it would run into trouble is the fact that a lot of your infantry units rely on line of sight and at being within relative close range to be effective.  That could make it hard for you to focus fire on certain units.  However, intangibles aside, the list looks pretty good. 

Unbeatable....?  That remains to be seen...

[jhobin]

You only have 7 chimera's that's not unbeatable  

This just looks like its a variation on the leafblower list. Like most people have said tough but not unstopable. I play a similiar list with more chimera's and the tough armies to beat;

-tyranids with multiple T6 W6 3+ save model's i.e. multiple tervigon's/trygon's.
-people can beat/tie the list by holding everything in reserve.
-a high model count assault army deployed up far as it can and going 1st i.e. horde orks/all jump or heavy cav SW/BA
-Bad dice rolls
-a good general
-The list can go on and on but I'm at work  

Tough army yes unbeatable no.

Now an all gretchin army on the other hand unbeatable!

[Rurouni Benshin]

Now an all gretchin army on the other hand unbeatable!

A friend of mine actually played an All Boyz/Gretchin/Nobz list without any vehicles, except for Killa Kanz in my local 'Ard Boyz tourney, and took first with it.  He then went to Round 2, and finished 3rd overall, and is going to Chicago for the finals now.  Judging from the way he played in Round 1, I didn't think there'd be anyway of beating him.  That's the closest to an unbeatable list I've ever seen.

[Ragnar]

that list benshin mentions is a take on kan wall, but imo must have all shootas (squads of 30) and 2 meks w/ KFF with max kans and 2 dreads to be effective. that is a good list, one of 2 competitive ork builds, but that list will get completely and utterly demolished by guard. oh, if any of you wants to try to prove me wrong that the list is unbeatable, *please*, i implore you, PM me, play a game of vassal, try any army you want against it.

[jhobin]

See that's what I'm talking about Grot rebellion on the way;

HQ.Mad Doc Grotsnik
HQ.BigMek w/Kustom Force Field
T:30grots w/3xRuntherd (x6)
F:3xRokkitBuggies (x3) or 9xDeffKoptas (probably better than buggies)
H:3xkannons' with Runtzherder +6grots (x3)

That's 1544 points (points could be slightly off going by memory)
models=300

for 2500pts I'd dump the rest in meganobz in trukks or nobz in battle wagons.

You could fill the whole force org chart and have left over points to tell your opponent I took less points and I'm gonna woop ya.

 

[Ed]

this guard list doesnt have the inq deepstrike def
or even vs deathwing or loganwing how will you def from that

[Grimwulfe]

First...  Ragnar who are you...

Second...   No list is unbeatable...

Third...  Talking crap will get you no where, play the game the way its supposed to be played (as in on the table) or STFU.

[Chase]

I think you're going to be hard pressed to find someone here who is up for playing on vassal.

Are the 6x Vendettas generally better than however many more Chimeras loaded with who knows what?

[Ragnar]

Vendettas are very preferable to chimeras due to their firepower, blocking ability, and mobility. yes, multilasers are great and that's why there are so many chimeras in the list. the vendettas are just fantastic in their roles as gunships and an all-round everything killer.