Sisters have arrived, who knew.

[andalucien]

OK... I'm trying to casualify my brain... bear with me...

So how about if the Sisters Repentia use their power before Overwatch, so that they can have the 3+ FNP against overwatch?   One step further:  what if they use Faith at the beginning of the assault phase before declaring a charge target, and decide who to charge based on whether they pass the faith test?   If you don't take "before they swing" to mean "IMMEDIATELY before they swing", where do you draw the line? 

I'm kinda just arguing for the sake of arguing, because it's fun to me to figure this stuff out...

[Sir_Prometheus]

OK, again in the spirit of it......"before they strike blows".  I wouldn't have that happen at INit 1, (or when the character swings) cuz as you pointed out, that would be dumb.  It would be after assault moves, overwatch, any dangerous terrain tests, all that. 

I;m basically going for just the most OBVIOUS, immediate interpretation.  Remember, they're neither engineers nor programmers over there. 

I think whether it was before or after challenges were declared would be open to question.  Probably after.  Just before the initiative order.

[Benjamin]

I'm pretty sure the game is rapidly devolving into "whatever your opponent lets you get away with."

[Sir_Prometheus]

I'm pretty sure the game is rapidly devolving into "whatever your opponent lets you get away with."

Well, it's getting to that point isn't it?  GW seemed like they were trying to be more technical....and then they just stopped. Trying, that is. Now they almost seem worse than before, writing rules that would be fine for two drunk buddies in a basement....but that have almost no reasonable in un-ambiguous interpretation. 

Grav weapons are a great example. Arguably the most important codex, brought up like 3 separate rules issues. No interest in clarifying. Haven't had a FAQ for like what, 4-5 months now?

[Erich]

No interest in clarifying. Haven't had a FAQ for like what, 4-5 months now?

There were updates to the FAQ last month...they did not address much, but they were updated.

[Sir_Prometheus]

I'm aware. The only thing they updated was servo arms, and it was an errata, not a FAQ. Didn't feel it counted.

[andalucien]

Yeah, someone needs to step in and do what GW doesn't do (make a tight, appealing, balance ruleset for competitive play).  If anyone wants to give me a couple million or so, I'll retire and get it rolling.