Tau & Eldar

[jhobin]

I've thought about the same thing with pathfinder's. I was also thinking giving them x3 ion rifles, overcharge on the first thing you fire at and cross your finger's.

[robpro]

You never seem to have a problem killing my destroyer lots, but I do like rolling lots of 1's for his saves and look out sirs. Wraiths are one of those units that has a 3+ invul, so you can get lucky and have most of them survive by virtue of them always getting a decent save, but it still is only 3+ so weight of dice should have no trouble taking them down.

[Sir_Prometheus]

I've thought about the same thing with pathfinder's. I was also thinking giving them x3 ion rifles, overcharge on the first thing you fire at and cross your finger's.

They're just so delicate (lots of ignores cover, only a 5+ save, and lots of ignores cover is AP 5, much less is AP4) that anything you invest in special gear for them will quickly be lost.  That, and markerlights are more useful than just about anything else you can do. 

[corporaptor primus]

How about Harlequins with a Phoenix Lord assaulting a flank?  Tau can remove cover but I'd think that due to the Halequins' veil of tears there's a chance that not all supporting units will be able to draw LOS and fire over watch on the Harlequins. The Phoenix Lord can tank the shots that do come.
Thoughts?

[Benjamin]

How about Harlequins with a Phoenix Lord assaulting a flank?  Tau can remove cover but I'd think that due to the Halequins' veil of tears there's a chance that not all supporting units will be able to draw LOS and fire over watch on the Harlequins. The Phoenix Lord can tank the shots that do come.
Thoughts?

If I'm not mistaken, LOS is generally not an issue for Tau.

[Typhus]

How about Harlequins with a Phoenix Lord assaulting a flank?  Tau can remove cover but I'd think that due to the Halequins' veil of tears there's a chance that not all supporting units will be able to draw LOS and fire over watch on the Harlequins. The Phoenix Lord can tank the shots that do come.
Thoughts?

If I'm not mistaken, LOS is generally not an issue for Tau.

 "Any unit wishing to target them must roll 2d6x2. This is their spooting distance in inches. If the models are not within spotting range, they may not fire that turn."

So...while SMS doesn't need LOS to fire, you still have to be able to legally target a unit.  VoT says nothing about Stealth/Shrouding/Night Fight/Cover/Blah, it specifically says "wishing to target".  Based on that, I would argue (even as the Tau player) that if I dont get that 2d6x2 range, I can't even target to fire.

Now, admittedly, it's still a best case scenario for me because your max charge range is 12" so all I need is 6+ on 2d6 to see you with each unit, depending on how close you are to each unit.

[andalucien]

Also, it would suck if the only way we figured how to beat "Eldar & Tau" was using an Eldar unit.

[Benjamin]

Also, it would suck if the only way we figured how to beat "Eldar & Tau" was using an Eldar unit.

Thumbs up.

I started the topic hoping the other dozen or so codices could muster up a challenge. It's been my go-to thought-exercise for the past week.

[robpro]

How about Harlequins with a Phoenix Lord assaulting a flank?  Tau can remove cover but I'd think that due to the Halequins' veil of tears there's a chance that not all supporting units will be able to draw LOS and fire over watch on the Harlequins. The Phoenix Lord can tank the shots that do come.
Thoughts?

If you go 2nd, you'll likely lose that unit before you can cast VoT. If you put them in reserves and try to outflank, you won't be able to cast VoT the turn they come on. Risky I guess, but possible?