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Benjamin

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Re: 6th edition Q&A with its writers
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 08:49:14 PM »
Personally, I think the main problem was that rhinos were 35 pts.  Maybe they should have started with that.
More or fewer points?

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Re: 6th edition Q&A with its writers
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2012, 09:05:19 PM »
10 pts.  They should be 10 pts.


No seriously, rhinos used to be like what, 50, 55?  I forget but it was around there.  (BT codex has it 50, and 70 for the razorback.  That's probably what it was)  Then, as I recall, 5th edition and the new SM codex came out within a couple months of each other.

For those who don't remember, in 4th, vehicles were a deathtrap, and 5th was a bit of a reaction to that.  But at basically the exact same time they reduced the cost by 15 pts.  2 fixes to one problem.  And it took a few months, but once it sunk in, yeah, rhinos and razorback were everywhere.  Really, the whole game of 40k revolved around killing AV11.

IG codex came around a few years later with 55 pt chimeras.  AV12 front, and when you have them 10 abreast, no one cares about the side armor. 

And kinda like Flyers, there was a strong suspicion it was done to sell models.  I think most Marine players probably had like 2-4 rhinos total.  Y'know, about enough to move a few tac squads around, that's about it.  Jump packs were common.  Later (and it took a while to build) you'd see things like 6-9 razorback lists.  So that's something like $200 in little plastic boxes (and personally, I think one of the most boring models in 40k). 

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Re: 6th edition Q&A with its writers
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 04:36:28 AM »
10 pts.  They should be 10 pts.


No seriously, rhinos used to be like what, 50, 55?  I forget but it was around there.  (BT codex has it 50, and 70 for the razorback.  That's probably what it was)  Then, as I recall, 5th edition and the new SM codex came out within a couple months of each other.

For those who don't remember, in 4th, vehicles were a deathtrap, and 5th was a bit of a reaction to that.  But at basically the exact same time they reduced the cost by 15 pts.  2 fixes to one problem.  And it took a few months, but once it sunk in, yeah, rhinos and razorback were everywhere.  Really, the whole game of 40k revolved around killing AV11.

IG codex came around a few years later with 55 pt chimeras.  AV12 front, and when you have them 10 abreast, no one cares about the side armor. 

And kinda like Flyers, there was a strong suspicion it was done to sell models.  I think most Marine players probably had like 2-4 rhinos total.  Y'know, about enough to move a few tac squads around, that's about it.  Jump packs were common.  Later (and it took a while to build) you'd see things like 6-9 razorback lists.  So that's something like $200 in little plastic boxes (and personally, I think one of the most boring models in 40k).

your also forgetting the fact that when the lowered the cost of the rhino, they increased the cost of a 10 man tac squad by 30 points. Space marines are fluff suppose to me a rapid Elite strike force when deployed.

As for razor backs, they dont carry alot of troops and cost alot of points for good weapons, so that also is balanced for there cost
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