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Games Workshop => Warhammer 40K => Topic started by: andalucien on February 14, 2014, 09:29:18 AM
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http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/02/breaking-imperial-knights-rules-rumors.html
Superheavies and D weapons in a normal 40k codex (upcoming imperial guard).
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To me, the fact that it's a superheavy walker is a big strike against taking it in a list. Sure, it has a S:D chainsword, but you can also pop this thing with two lucky pens. The wraithknight is still a better option, it only ever loses one wound from a shooting attack (minus ID....)
All that said, I'm still not a fan of superheavies in a normal game of 40k. I'll probably buy one for painting funtimes, but I'll scowl at people who field them (assuming rumors are true).
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I've been following this as well, price seems about right at 375 points, I was hoping for toughness and it being a MC as you are absolutely right about the two lucky pens.
Weaponry on it looks good, and while I share your disdain for D in normal games it is only on the melee weapon and that is certainly not the best use of this thing
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How can you say it dies in 2 pens? I don't see its hull points listed anywhere, and getting a 4+ invul after your opponents movement phase on one side is pretty nifty.
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Rumor has it that it has 6 hull points, but the superheavy rules dictate that an explodes result removes extra hull points (d3... or 3... dunno, been a while). Sure, it has the invul, and the S:D chainsword, but as the rumors have it, I think it compares unfavorably to both Wraithknights and riptides.
All of that said, I'm going to hold out judgement until we get a codex.
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How can you say it dies in 2 pens? I don't see its hull points listed anywhere, and getting a 4+ invul after your opponents movement phase on one side is pretty nifty.
Rumored to have 6 hull points, and depending how well you roll you could actually kill it in one pen. Explosion + the additional d3 from said explosion
AV13/12 Is pretty flimsy nowadays, 4+ save helps but unless you love got it bubble wrapped good a drop pod and some meltas are going to ruin your day
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If it's not a ridiculous amount of money, I might consider that model. Lets see how GW does it...
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If it's not a ridiculous amount of money, I might consider that model. Lets see how GW does it...
i'd guess somewhere between a Wraithknight ($115) and a lord of skulls ($160), but since this is GW it may very well be $200 lol
it's all going to come down to how useful these damn things actually are and if TOs even let them in tournaments
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If GW is going to try to force Super-heavies into normal 40k even further by putting them in codex's, as part fo the core balance, same as flyers..........well, that will be it for me, I'm afraid. They obviously want to sell tonka-truck models....but I don't want to play them. Jumping the shark.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwupJD2LzD8
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40k Radio upcoming codex release schedule:
March: Imperial Knights
April: Milita Auxilia
May: 7th ed 40k
June: Orks
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40k Radio upcoming codex release schedule:
March: Imperial Knights
April: Milita Auxilia
May: 7th ed 40k
June: Orks
I like all of this. Also rumors that knight titans may be a full codex with mechanicus, stormtroopers, etc units and such
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40k Radio upcoming codex release schedule:
March: Imperial Knights
April: Milita Auxilia
May: 7th ed 40k
June: Orks
I like all of this. Also rumors that knight titans may be a full codex with mechanicus, stormtroopers, etc units and such
Good thing I do not have high blood pressure given the amount of salt that should come with these...
But I will say, GW lets me do a Mechanicus Army....I may just have to stop playing Orks.....a least for a little while.
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Yes, a Mechanicus army sounds pretty cool. Still skeptical about 7th edition already though, but who knows. Maybe it will be awesome. Then again maybe assaults will be even crappier. Either way, in the past few months I've given up hope of ever taking my marines to competitive events, just as my 1850 list was finally coming together. So I say, bring the D and lets all have a little fun.
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BOOM!
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wonder what the "invincible behemoth" rule is...
Edit: figured it out, it's an apocalypse rule that basicaly says it's armor can't be degraded
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So cool looking
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I really, really, really hope this is under $150.
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I really, really, really hope this is under $150.
Well i know GW sold a lot of Wraithknights at $115 a pop, and on the other side of the coin i doubt they sold many lord of skulls or tesseract arks at $160. So doing that math and carrying the three...
i'm guessing its right about in the middle, as from the rules it's pretty clear they want these to be in normal games and everyone to buy two of them
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Well be sure to let me know as soon as you know if you guys want one (or more).
I'll likely have zero info when I'm asked to put in my order...
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i'm guessing its right about in the middle, as from the rules it's pretty clear they want these to be in normal games and everyone to buy two of them
If it is a super heavy walker, that is Lord of War slot, so only 1 per army. I am sure the price will be baneblade levels...
Unless the rumored Knight dex allows more than 1 to be taken, then I would bet closer to the wraithknight.
Of course, this is GW...they just throw darts when setting price. I am sure they hit the square that says $100 + throw again.
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i'm guessing its right about in the middle, as from the rules it's pretty clear they want these to be in normal games and everyone to buy two of them
If it is a super heavy walker, that is Lord of War slot, so only 1 per army. I am sure the price will be baneblade levels...
Unless the rumored Knight dex allows more than 1 to be taken, then I would bet closer to the wraithknight.
Of course, this is GW...they just throw darts when setting price. I am sure they hit the square that says $100 + throw again.
370 and 375 points as confirmed by pics.
Also confirmed by pics is you can have 3 in an allied detachment or 6 in a primary detachment
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I think they look more like warmachine colossals than a 40k model. I swear the blue one is a Cygnar model on a GW base and the red one could pass for Khador if it wasn't for the head.
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I think they look more like warmachine colossals than a 40k model. I swear the blue one is a Cygnar model on a GW base and the red one could pass for Khador if it wasn't for the head.
This actually shows one of the biggest differences between PP and GW.
PP adds colossals to the game and you can use 1-2 of them (unless you are a crazy dwarf player) and for the most part, a colossal or a pair of heavy's are pretty much equivalent.
GW wants to add colossals to their game, so they do it in a way to add 3-6 expensive models...and lets not talk about balancing rules.
They do look pretty cool and I wish it was practical to play with multiples of them at the 28mm scale. It is too bad that they never made a larger scale (or smaller scale depending on how you want to look at it) game at the 6mm scale where using all these large models would be really practical.....
At 2000 points you can get 5 of these...assuming the Knight legions ignore the HQ+Troops thing (which I would not be surprised to see, kind of like the imperial armored spearhead).
GW is really confusing me with all these super large scale releases. Seems like they do not know what game they are making models for anymore. Is it a small scale tactical war game...is it a super walker skirmish game? Mixing the two together does not make a ton of sense since the latter pretty much invalidates the former (and really super heavies pretty much make troops useless). What is really confusing is the rules (and I am not talking about things like there is no balance at all, point cost between codexes are not even remotely equivalent, spooling out new codexes while armies are are still operating out of a dex that is 2 editions out of date). Wraithknight, Riptide are not that much different than a dreadnaught, but the former are MC and the later is a Walker. And then the Knight is a walker, when it is pretty close to the riptide. Doesn't make a lot of sense, should be all some kind of walker.
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of course, if this thing is not 160$, it could make a damn fine second stompa....
actually make that a MegaDread...saw this picture and the thing is much smaller than I thought
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/842/2571/original.jpg
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40k Radio upcoming codex release schedule:
March: Imperial Knights
April: Milita Auxilia
May: 7th ed 40k
June: Orks
Good thing I do not have high blood pressure given the amount of salt that should come with these...
40k Radio "predicted" the entire Space Marine and Dark Elf books with 100% accuracy. They were also the only ones that said Tyranids were in January when everyone else said December. The Imperial Knight rumors started with THEM. Given those odds, I'm confident enough and willing to personally make a bet with you.. $100 store credit that this schedule is true.
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Jason,
How big are those Dreamforge Titans that you got from the kickstarter? Are they going to be of comparable size to these knights?
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I really, really, really hope this is under $150.
Well i know GW sold a lot of Wraithknights at $115 a pop, and on the other side of the coin i doubt they sold many lord of skulls or tesseract arks at $160. So doing that math and carrying the three...
i'm guessing its right about in the middle, as from the rules it's pretty clear they want these to be in normal games and everyone to buy two of them
I think the reason they didn't sell many Lords of Skulls or Tesseract Vaults might be due to people not wanting to see them in standard games of 40k. I bet they'd at least sell more Vaults if people were using Escalation in everything, not sure about the Lord of Skulls but it seems like you could build some solid armylists with that model too.
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Jason,
How big are those Dreamforge Titans that you got from the kickstarter? Are they going to be of comparable size to these knights?
Unclear, need some better pictures or better yet measurements on one of these new titans.
Dreamforge comes in 2 varieties. 15 mm which is around the size of a dread knight and the 28 mm version is a little shorter than a warhound titan.
The GW knight titan appears to be on a oval MC base and looks to be shorter and fatter than a wraithknight
I plan on making my knight titans out of my dreamforge kits (just because I've got 3 of them kicking around from that kickstarter) and they look REALLY close to this new GW titan... maybe dreamforge games should sue GW! lol
that being said anyone who wants to run a knight titan you're probably better off getting the GW version assuming the price is 150 or under.
A dreamforge titan is 100 but you'd need to buy the Grendel cannon and a nova cannon and possibly the chain arm at 28 a pop to meet wysiwyg requirements of the knight titans battle cannon or melta cannon and D weapon.
It shocks me to say this but the GW kit is likely a cheaper option as it comes with all options to make both variants ( again assuming the damn thing is under 150)
Pre order now from your friendly neighborhood Chase!
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Dreamforge comes in 2 varieties. 15 mm which is around the size of a dread knight and the 28 mm version is a little shorter than a warhound titan.
The GW knight titan appears to be on a oval MC base and looks to be shorter and fatter than a wraithknight
I plan on making my knight titans out of my dreamforge kits (just because I've got 3 of them kicking around from that kickstarter) and they look REALLY close to this new GW titan... maybe dreamforge games should sue GW! lol
that being said anyone who wants to run a knight titan you're probably better off getting the GW version assuming the price is 150 or under.
A dreamforge titan is 100 but you'd need to buy the Grendel cannon and a nova cannon and possibly the chain arm at 28 a pop to meet wysiwyg requirements of the knight titans battle cannon or melta cannon and D weapon.
wouldn't you just need 1 nova cannon since the kit comes with a sword (there is your D weapon) and an assault cannon looking thing (which looks like a bad ass battle cannon)?
I actually prefer the look of the Dreamforge ones to the GW ones (not saying the GW ones look bad, just personal preference).
Assuming rules to Ad Mech come out, I could see myself picking up a couple of these (probably DF instead of GW). Do not look forward to painting them though...painting the Judicator was a pain enough.
Did not realize they made a dread night sized one....that would make a pretty nifty Ork MekaDread.
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Dreamforge comes in 2 varieties. 15 mm which is around the size of a dread knight and the 28 mm version is a little shorter than a warhound titan.
The GW knight titan appears to be on a oval MC base and looks to be shorter and fatter than a wraithknight
I plan on making my knight titans out of my dreamforge kits (just because I've got 3 of them kicking around from that kickstarter) and they look REALLY close to this new GW titan... maybe dreamforge games should sue GW! lol
that being said anyone who wants to run a knight titan you're probably better off getting the GW version assuming the price is 150 or under.
A dreamforge titan is 100 but you'd need to buy the Grendel cannon and a nova cannon and possibly the chain arm at 28 a pop to meet wysiwyg requirements of the knight titans battle cannon or melta cannon and D weapon.
wouldn't you just need 1 nova cannon since the kit comes with a sword (there is your D weapon) and an assault cannon looking thing (which looks like a bad ass battle cannon)?
I actually prefer the look of the Dreamforge ones to the GW ones (not saying the GW ones look bad, just personal preference).
Assuming rules to Ad Mech come out, I could see myself picking up a couple of these (probably DF instead of GW). Do not look forward to painting them though...painting the Judicator was a pain enough.
Did not realize they made a dread night sized one....that would make a pretty nifty Ork MekaDread.
I'd agree the swords would work as a close combat weapon (there's three varieties + a claw)
The gun it comes with however is pretty clearly a small caliber minigun and not a large bore battle cannon, I think the Grendel cannon fits the wysiwyg bill on that one
I just saw another picture of one of the GW knight titan next to the tall Tyranid MC (forgot its name). The angle was a little unclear but it doesn't appear to be too much taller than that.
gonna unbox and get to work on one of these dreamforge leviathan this week.
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I think the Mortis and a pair of the crusaders would make a damn cool Knight House army...I am assuming the rest of the ad mech list for the knight houses will just consist of regular (IG) soldiers like the fluff (peasants without a lot of heavy weapons).
Too bad there is not an option we know of yet that will allow for 2 ccw. Jason, you could model up a bunch of hammer and sickle knights...
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Anyone realize that Imperial Knights are their own seperate army..
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I think the Mortis and a pair of the crusaders would make a damn cool Knight House army...I am assuming the rest of the ad mech list for the knight houses will just consist of regular (IG) soldiers like the fluff (peasants without a lot of heavy weapons).
Too bad there is not an option we know of yet that will allow for 2 ccw. Jason, you could model up a bunch of hammer and sickle knights...
Lol nice idea! I'll have to just settle for them being painted up as soviets to match my IG
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Too bad there is not an option we know of yet that will allow for 2 ccw. Jason, you could model up a bunch of hammer and sickle knights...
Lol nice idea! I'll have to just settle for them being painted up as soviets to match my IG
This is kind of a cool release. Still wish they would have updated everyone to 6th before spooling out the new stuff.
Mechanicum was my favorite of the HH novels and I loved the 2 Knights that were in that book. I will definitely make up a Knight House, providing the rules are not utter crap. Just got to get a peak at the new codex before deciding.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Pk8ha9a.jpg)
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Too bad there is not an option we know of yet that will allow for 2 ccw. Jason, you could model up a bunch of hammer and sickle knights...
Lol nice idea! I'll have to just settle for them being painted up as soviets to match my IG
This is kind of a cool release. Still wish they would have updated everyone to 6th before spooling out the new stuff.
Mechanicum was my favorite of the HH novels and I loved the 2 Knights that were in that book. I will definitely make up a Knight House, providing the rules are not utter crap. Just got to get a peak at the new codex before deciding.
What's interesting is that FW already has a mechanicus line and FW is supposedly available for ordering from GW stores in march or april... first gw codex with a fw only army? hmmmm
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(http://i.imgur.com/Pk8ha9a.jpg)
Yes, we have seen that, but the 40k radio talked about 3 different armies, Knight House, Ad Mec, and Mercs.
I am assuming there are other units to fill out the points besides just the Knights. I know in the fluff, Knight houses have small peasant forces that support the Knights, kind of like a PDF without alot of the heavy support. Ad Mec has all sorts of neat stuff that could be with it. And heck, Mercs can be anything.
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What's interesting is that FW already has a mechanicus line and FW is supposedly available for ordering from GW stores in march or april... first gw codex with a fw only army? hmmmm
Yeah, but it is only some of the oddball stuff in the Legio Cybernetica or whatever. They still have not done the baseline skiitarri and preatoria (which I think is how you spell the names....my latin sucks).
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So, they're an army in their own right with just Knights? Do they all count as troops then? This needs more info to make sense.
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Maybe it's like how the inqusition are their own army? If I can get my hands on an Armorcast Reaver, I would definitely pick some of these up to round out a cool looking 3k IG army.
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If people are interested, it looks like my distributors have a couple (literally a couple) of the different DreamForge "Leviathan" style / class titans left in stock.
Just throwing that out there.
Edit: Chances the GW version is cheaper if you're planning to get just 1 extra arm... Super high.
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If people are interested, it looks like my distributors have a couple (literally a couple) of the different DreamForge "Leviathan" style / class titans left in stock.
Just throwing that out there.
Edit: Chances the GW version is cheaper if you're planning to get just 1 extra arm... Super high.
The scale on the Dreamforge ones is going to be a bit off when compared to the GW ones. 25mm DF Leviathan is 8.5in tall (Ork Stompa Size) while the 15mm DF Leviathan is about 4.5in tall. From the WD leaks, it looks like it is around the size of that Tyranid beastie, somewhere on the order of 5.5-6.5in tall.
I am thinking of using a 15mm scale one and putting it on a base to boost it up a bit. Even though the 15mm one doesn't have the extra arms on sale yet, or the mortis version.
Chase, do your distributors have the 15mm one? How much are they if you can get them?
If the Ork Codex does a stompa Mob, I going to buy a couple of big ones and orky them up.
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They have ten of the 15mm versions across two warehouses. They're $59.00.
You think a 4.5 inch model is right for a Knight Titan? That says "Dreadnought" to me... Boosting it up says "Dreadnought on a hill" to me. /shrug.
A Riptide is 6-7 inches tall.
The Wraithknight is almost 9 inches tall.
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They have ten of the 15mm versions across two warehouses. They're $59.00.
You think a 4.5 inch model is right for a Knight Titan? That says "Dreadnought" to me... Boosting it up says "Dreadnought on a hill" to me. /shrug.
I don't know if a 4.5 inch model is right for a Knight, still not sure how big a real Knight model is, from the pictures some people are estimating 6ish inch). You could make up a 1.5in with a little converting and creative basing.
4.5 is more likely what a Dreadnight/MekaDread is. A Dreadnaught is something like 2.5-3in (they are smaller than the 3 inch battlefoam that i have them in).
I really like the Dreamforge aesthetic, but it is looking like the Knight is going to fall in between the two sizes they make. Which is a shame. Still thinking about picking up 1-2 to make some MekaDreads, but....
Still very interested in making a Knight House army, but it is really going to come down to the cost of the knights. At wraithknight prices, 3 of them would hurt but be doable. At Lord of skull prices....well for me that isn't happening.
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They have ten of the 15mm versions across two warehouses. They're $59.00.
You think a 4.5 inch model is right for a Knight Titan? That says "Dreadnought" to me... Boosting it up says "Dreadnought on a hill" to me. /shrug.
A Riptide is 6-7 inches tall.
The Wraithknight is almost 9 inches tall.
That's cool Chase that BG has access to dreamforge stock. Wave 3 which has the weapons arms for the 15mm ones and the Mortis 15mm will hopefully be shipping in the next month or two.
Personally I'm using the 28 mm leviathans as knight titans, bigger is better and it's not like it would of been easy to get a cover save anyway lol
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So, this is a very pretty model. I wish there was a way to reasonably play it "normally" (by which I mean the same sort of 40k tournaments run, and is balanced).
But, 3-6 of these things is fucking stupid. Excuse my French.
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If I could do a renegade mechanicus thing with a bunch of dreamforge mortis and FW renegades as regular troops... 8)
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If I could do a renegade mechanicus thing with a bunch of dreamforge mortis and FW renegades as regular troops... 8)
That would look pretty cool.
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Yeah, I know from experience that no one will complain if you use a model that is a lot larger than the normal model (as long as base is the same). Smaller? Maybe.
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So... if someone has the oval base and wants to do the geometry to figure out the rough height...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_2IHdNkBSAE/Uv9ycTTiVbI/AAAAAAAANnE/dx3sv30S22o/s1600/1601545_659602394083136_418152695_n.jpg)
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http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/02/more-wd-leaked-pics-imperial-knight.html (http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/02/more-wd-leaked-pics-imperial-knight.html)
That link links to a link with a lot of info that I don't think would be a good idea to link directly to.
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So, this is a very pretty model. I wish there was a way to reasonably play it "normally" (by which I mean the same sort of 40k tournaments run, and is balanced).
But, 3-6 of these things is fucking stupid. Excuse my French.
This seems to be a good indicator that 7th ed very very close, appears like there will still be a bit of a shake up. Imagine if melta weapons did D3 pens..
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If I could do a renegade mechanicus thing with a bunch of dreamforge mortis and FW renegades as regular troops... 8)
I like this idea so much I am going to steal it.
Orks take over a knight world and they decided to work for my orks. Can use the25mm DF Mortis for the Knight and since the Knight world is now working for the Orks, the 15mm DF Mortis could be the Knight world manufactured Ork Meka Dreads.....
Yup that works.....
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So, this is a very pretty model. I wish there was a way to reasonably play it "normally" (by which I mean the same sort of 40k tournaments run, and is balanced).
But, 3-6 of these things is fucking stupid. Excuse my French.
This seems to be a good indicator that 7th ed very very close, appears like there will still be a bit of a shake up. Imagine if melta weapons did D3 pens..
As long as Orks get some kind of Orky Melta.
I am actually glad 7th is around the corner. Hopefully they tweak things to balance that shooting/melee thing.
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On a note for scale, it's taller than a Trygon so it probably stands 5.5-6 inches tall.
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Rich I'm happy your discussing a 40k thing :) I actually am tempted to order one or two of those dream forge ones
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Looks like they already derped a bit on the rules. Ion Shield is a 4+ invul against HITS, not GLANCES or PENS. Unless they intended to give pseudo-Holofields to Imperial units.
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This seems to be a good indicator that 7th ed very very close, appears like there will still be a bit of a shake up. Imagine if melta weapons did D3 pens..
I saw (unsubstantiated, crazy, likely bullshit) rumors of consolidating into close combat (like 3rd (?) edition). Please dear Emperor make it so. I honestly think that would fix *so many things*.
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Errr, I remember when one assault squad would leapfrog through an entire army. It wasn't good.
Ok, maybe 7th is around the corner, and everything will be great. But I'm real tired of this "everything is broken now, but we'll fix it in 6 months" philosophy. The games I'm playing now matter too.
Things were only balanced for a couple months after 6th came out anyway, then stuff got crazy again.
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This seems to be a good indicator that 7th ed very very close, appears like there will still be a bit of a shake up. Imagine if melta weapons did D3 pens..
I saw (unsubstantiated, crazy, likely bullshit) rumors of consolidating into close combat (like 3rd (?) edition). Please dear Emperor make it so. I honestly think that would fix *so many things*.
That was in 4th ed too. I haven't heard anything on that specifically, but I do agree that something needs to be done to make assault units more competitive. Shooting is VERY strong right now. Time will tell.
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Errr, I remember when one assault squad would leapfrog through an entire army. It wasn't good.
Ok, maybe 7th is around the corner, and everything will be great. But I'm real tired of this "everything is broken now, but we'll fix it in 6 months" philosophy. The games I'm playing now matter too.
Things were only balanced for a couple months after 6th came out anyway, then stuff got crazy again.
Yes the whole leapfrog thing was bad too, one unit of genestealers would destroy an entire tau army lol. In Fantasy there are modifiers to shooting, but I doubt that will happen for 40k.
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I understand all of the points about leapfrogging through an army, but the reality is that we have something like that now with shooting. There is basically no balance whatsoever between assault and shooting, and ultimately my point is that I'd like to see that rectified. Is consolidating into assault the way to fix that? Dunno.
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Right now, it's fairly hard to get into assault and unless you can sweep the enemy (which I find to be fairly rare this edition, either you were fighting marines that auto-rallied or killed almost everything anyways), there's no real reward to winning combat. You're just next to all of the other guys things to get double tapped the next turn. Consolidating into combat might help with that, especially if you allow units that had not already fired overwatch to overwatch a unit consolidating in.
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New rumor on faeit has the price at 150-160 US.
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would be cheaper to buy the ones chase has located lol!
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Faeit is always wrong, but I guess that won't stop people from going to their website anyway ???
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Faeit is always wrong, but I guess that won't stop people from going to their website anyway ???
It's a rumor site and a pretty good one at that. There are disclaimer's everywhere on the site. If you're looking for solid 100% aacurate info, no this site is not for you. If you want to read up on what people are hearing and talking about then it is a very entertaining site.
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Faeit is always wrong, but I guess that won't stop people from going to their website anyway ???
It's a rumor site and a pretty good one at that. There are disclaimer's everywhere on the site. If you're looking for solid 100% aacurate info, no this site is not for you. If you want to read up on what people are hearing and talking about then it is a very entertaining site.
It's always wrong, and they just repost rumors from other sites.. remember all that ridiculous crap they posted about Tyranids?? There are far more accurate rumor sites out there.
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Faeit is always wrong, but I guess that won't stop people from going to their website anyway ???
It's a rumor site and a pretty good one at that. There are disclaimer's everywhere on the site. If you're looking for solid 100% aacurate info, no this site is not for you. If you want to read up on what people are hearing and talking about then it is a very entertaining site.
It's always wrong, and they just repost rumors from other sites.. remember all that ridiculous crap they posted about Tyranids?? There are far more accurate rumor sites out there.
I remember when they got things so right that GW legal slapped them hard.
What site are you a fanboy of and lets just get this part over with.
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I'm a Reddit fanboy. Crap for 40k rumors (frankly, I'm not even sure if there's a 40k subreddit... there probably is), but I like it anyway, and you can't take that away from me. FLAME ON Y'ALL.
Seriously though, chill the hell out. Rumors sites are like meteorologists. Sometimes, they're right, sometimes they forecast sunshine and you get three feet of snow. Am I about to argue about it? Psssht.
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Faeit is always wrong, but I guess that won't stop people from going to their website anyway ???
It's a rumor site and a pretty good one at that. There are disclaimer's everywhere on the site. If you're looking for solid 100% aacurate info, no this site is not for you. If you want to read up on what people are hearing and talking about then it is a very entertaining site.
It's always wrong, and they just repost rumors from other sites.. remember all that ridiculous crap they posted about Tyranids?? There are far more accurate rumor sites out there.
More repetition of blanket statements and less clarifying why you feel the way you do in a spirited debate...you win the site sucks and so does my opinion.
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I've followed Harry & Hastings on Warseer for years, and more recently 40k Radio.. which I have already stated.
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I've followed Harry & Hastings on Warseer for years, and more recently 40k Radio.. which I have already stated.
Harry and Hastings are the best rumor guys out there. but it usually about new models(and infering new army books based on that).
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Harry and Hastings are the best rumor guys out there. but it usually about new models(and infering new army books based on that).
Yes they've been great for the last decade or so, but I think 40K Radio have taken the spot for #1. 40K Radio also posts on Warseer as Lion275.. check it out, this is even from January http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?388438-40K-Radio-Imperial-Knights-in-March
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I pay attention to absolutely nothing.
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I pay attention to not arguing about nonsense.
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I pay attention to absolutely nothing.
That's most of America dude